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One of the purposes of this Blog message, is to show the Truth of Church Salvation now, versus the Jewish Believers Salvation later. Also it discusses, who the SAINTS are.
One of the purposes of this Blog message, and all its writings, is to show absolutely – and conclusively, the truth and difference, of the Church Christians now. This compared to, the strong Jewish Israel Christians now. Things will change, once the last 7 Years start, for the latter Jewish Christians.
Also this Blog, now discusses, who the SAINTS are.
This reveals, how God will work in the very last days, to save different people. We are very near to those days.
The chapters of this Salvation, are shown so clearly in Revelation. We all need to open our hearts, and minds, to understand these things clearly. I reveal how the book of Revelation alone, singularly discusses, how the new Jewish believers – will become:
The new SAINTS.
Of course the Bible (and Revelation), discusses other things, but these are also very revealing – about Christians, Jewish believers, and Saints.
The book of Revelation explains, that the word Saint, usually refers – to an enriched, and special set of JEWISH believers in JESUS. It does not mean just saved, but means a special set of people, who have been MORE – than JUST SAVED.
This is an answer, to a number of emails I have received.
The Bad emails want to deny, that God has promised this Salvation for the Jews, in the future. They claim, that Revelation, does not talk about them. BUT IT CLEARLY DOES. You will see all this, if you read Revelation properly, and do not close your HEART/MIND to THIS TRUTH.
These Bad Emails, are not true. I now try to point the truth out, much more clearly. God has made a special promise, to these Saints.
I want everyone to know first, that the True Church, who puts their trust in the work of Jesus alone – is already Saved now, by the work of Jesus. Individuals need to understand, that Christian Salvation is Secure.
Christians are secure now, before the Tribulation starts. When the Tribulation starts, they will then beforehand, immediately be Raptured/taken to Heaven. All those Christians and Jews, saved before this Tribulation starts, will already have been taken to Heaven. But what about the Latter saved Jews, from this Seven Year period, ONWARDS?
Please note: The Laws set by God in the OLD TESTAMENT, are different for Christians before the Tribulation. They are different, until the LAST 7 Years start. This time was again set, for the unbelieving Jewish people, at the start of the 7 Year Tribulation – to then become SAINTS, through JESUS.
All left behind, starting as unbelieving Jews in JESUS, will have to go through this Tribulation time. However, during this time, a third of Jews will be saved, but two thirds will not be saved.
The way Jews will be saved, during this Latter time, may be harder for them. That is because, after Christians are taken to Heaven, the life of Jewish believers left behind – will be immensely more troublesome and difficult. They will need to trust JESUS far more, for God’s protection, and New Birth Salvation.
The Church will not suffer all this, as they will have already been taken to Heaven. However, for now until then, the Church will still need to continue – their serving and loving God. This with God’s great Closeness, Love and Redemption of them, by His own power direct – HIMSELF.
I now write, about the true way of Salvation for the Jewish people, who will be saved differently – after Christians have already been taken to Heaven.
Firstly though, I just want to point out, that there are 3 types of people – that I now talk about. That is, from this below picture.

4 replies on “114 How the Church will be saved, during the Tribulation. How Israel will be saved afterwards. This discusses Pre-Tribulation period, and the Saints”
Mike’s message sent here.
John I find your words very difficult to understand and follow.
I do not accept a lot of the things written by you in Revelation. I now explain much, but I know you may not show everything.
John’s reply:
I have not posted everything Mike said, because the words may be confusing for many to read. The above has been simplified, so that I can show my reply, in a way which is easier for everyone to read and follow.
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Hi Everyone and Mike
It is clear to me that the book of Revelation reveals that God has a purpose up to chapter 6 and the 5th seal for the church (this is up to verse 11).
Solely afterwards, we read about the Jewish Saints being saved after the church is taken from chapter 6 verse 12 onward. This occurred as part of 6th Seal. See also chapter 7 in full (re Jews salvation).
There should never be confusion over this. It is only then (from last part of chapter 6 and 7) that we then start to read so much about the SAINTS in Revelation. They are never mentioned (as far as I can see) until chapter 8. Chapter 8 is the time when the Saints are first mentioned. Before and a part through chapter 6, then the full concentration was on the church only, and never was there a discussion about them after they were taken.
This is only mentioned when we first read about the Jewish people being saved, which was after the church has been taken.
If I am wrong I need proof, but the context (does seem to speak much more clearly) that there are two times involved between the church Christians and then Israel Jewish believers. This seems so obvious.
We all need to honestly and fairly open our hearts and minds to this clarity, and not allow our hearts to be hardened from it, by then keep telling John that He has got it wrong. I need people to know the amazing wonder of what God has done for me.
Those who know me more, and the hospital surgeons, will declare my amazing healing. These people will surely be aware that I must have experienced something amazing from God . This should make it clear to all of us that I may now learn more from God than ever and should be listened to without being oddly torn apart.
So I hope that everyone will take my words very seriously and act more seriously on them.
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Hi
I have written a much longer reply hear to the questions I received. The full reply is also now shown in full on my next message which should have appeared as 115.
This is my Bible reply to some questions I have received since my last blog message. It especially covers the answers I have now given in Revelation.
I now explain a bit about Revelation 5 verse 8 which was not covered in my last blog, but I now explain it. Revelation 5 is the very first time that Saints was mentioned in Revelation.
It says “and when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
This happened at a time when the 24 were mentioned which are the Saints of the whole bible. The 24 are the 12 leaders in the old testament and the 12 mentioned in The new testament as the full most important leaders of there time in Israel.
Chapter 6 and 7 go onto describing Israel and the church, and as shown below, there is a difference in the calling home of the church and then Israel Jewish people. Powerful people of God (who have a special relationship with Him) are especially close to Him. These will always pray and therefore will be known as Saints, due to that special relationship.
Of course all believers have a serious relationship with God and have special fellowship with God. But there are those like these 24 who have an even greater experience of God or even more special calling of their relationship with Him.
The 24 mentioned in Revelation reveal this as true. However, Revelation has another aim and includes the churches salvation first, and then goes more into depth explaining the Jewish salvation afterwards.
It explains the much needed prayers of the Jewish believers, from Chapter 8 onward, which comes directly after this message in chapter 5. It is clear to me that the book of Revelation reveals that God has a purpose up to chapter 6 and gives details of the 5th seal for the church (up to verse 11).
Solely afterwards, we read about the Jewish Saints being saved after the church is taken, from chapter 6 verse 12 onward. This occurred as part of 6th Seal. See also chapter 7 in full (re Jews salvation).
There should never be confusion over this. It is only then (from last part of chapter 6 and 7) that we only then start to read much about the SAINTS in Revelation. They are never mentioned in real detail (apart from mentioning the 24 and who they are) until chapter 8.
Chapter 8 is the first time when the Saints are more fully mentioned, properly. Before chapter 8 there was a section explained on the church only.
And never was there a later discussion about the church after they were taken in chapter 6.
This is only mentioned when we first read about the Jewish people being saved, which was after the church has been taken.
If I am wrong I need very strong and even clearer proof. However, the context (does seem to speak much more clearly) that there are two times involved between the church Christians and then Israel Jewish believers. This seems so obvious.
We all need to honestly and fairly open our hearts and minds to this clarity, and not allow our hearts to be hardened from it, by then keep telling me that I have got it wrong. I need people to know the amazing wonder of what God has done for me to heal and set me free from a usual death.
Those who know me more, and the hospital surgeons, will declare my amazing healing. These people will surely be aware that I must have experienced something amazing from God . This should make it clear to all of us that I may now learn more from God than ever and should be listened to without being oddly torn apart. So I hope that everyone will take my words very seriously and act more seriously on them.
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Thanks everyone for reading this message and Mikes great questions. I have spent a lot of time giving answers to the questions which I hope you will all read. Please also look at the latest parts related to the question:
“How the Church will be saved during the tribulation and then Israel soon afterwards. Discussion of the Pre – Tribulation period and describing who and what are the Saints”
Please send your further replies here.
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