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294 Bible Clearly Explains in Revelation Etc, that the Word SAINTS, is ONLY referring to very late Jewish Israel believers, in Jesus. NOT to Christians

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Please look at these Last Pages on 294. I had already written so much, about what the Bible means, by using the word SAINTS.

This WORD SAINTS, in all Bible Books (except Revelation), may have only ever been used – to refer to the VERY BEST Biblical Gentile Christians, and the VERY BEST Biblical Jewish Christians. The BIBLE WORD SAINTS, was referring, to what the Whole Bible said.

But SAINTS is different, from about Revelation 6 onwards. From this point in Revelation (last book of the Bible), it NOW, only SPECIFICALLY focuses on Jewish believers – during the Last 7 Years. This is because, Christians will already be in Heaven.

There may be many more Blog Messages, in Revelation, about these Saints – but I have found at least 5 here, that discuss this subject, much more convincingly. I put them all together now, so that you can see, that the Bible clearly talks on this subject – of the SAINTS.

The message pages I have used, on this subject, are these: 1 1 0, 1 1 4, 1 1 5, 1 2 7, and 2 4 9 (within 294). That is, 5 other items.

Please also use SEARCH key, to look up my previous BEST Pages on this subject (9 items). These were all related, to the Subject “The LAST 7 YEARS” and “Last Seven Years”. These were: 2 0 7, 2 0 8, 2 2 9, 2 4 7, 2 7 1, 3 5 2, 4 6 7, 4 7 0, 4 7 1 (in 2 9 2).

1. Press here, to go into other Page 1 1 0. Or press THIS, to go direct to 1 1 0 on Page 294, Below

How the Church and Israel will be saved, in the last days! Who are the Saints?

2. Press here, to go into other Page 1 1 4. Or press THIS, to go direct to 1 1 4 on Page 294, Below

This discusses Pre-Tribulation period, and explains the Saints

3. Press here, to go into other Page 1 1 5. Or press THIS, to go direct to 1 1 5 on Page 294, Below

Who are the Saints? Saints are first explained very well, in Revelation, after the church has been taken to Heaven – and NOT beforehand

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Explaining who the Saints are! They are the Latter Israel, and Latter Jewish Christians

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Saints are only mentioned, as being Jewish. They are especially recorded, as becoming Jesus believers, within the Last 7 years. Saints are recorded, as being Israeli’s, and Jesus believing. NOT as just Christians.

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Who are the four living Creatures and seals, mentioned in Revelation?

In summary, these 4 beings (living creatures) are an exalted order of saved and protected (sealed) angels, whose purpose – is primarily that of worship Revelation 1 9: 4.

In Revelation 7 verse 1, it states that the 4 are all angels. It says: “4 angels standing at the 4 corners of the Earth”

There is the number seven, also mentioned. They are sealed Angels (saved, protected ones). They are also spirits of God etc and include the major 4 angels/living creatures. All seven are discussed, but we are all mostly involved in the first 4 angels.

A lamb (Jesus) opens all 7 seals (of protection) etc.

Revelation 6: 9 – 1 1. This first discusses the removal of the Church, from Earth to Heaven, and discusses the 5th seal of protection.

The later saved Jewish People, are shown in chapter 7 verses 9 – 1 0. They were “a great multitude that no-one could count” How many is that? 

It must be many millions.  So, how many people or numbers, is a third of the whole of Jewish people all over the Earth, right now? The passage is clearly referring to these.

That message was given many years ago, about out time now. But it is now very clear, that it is related to our day now. There are far more Jewish people in the world now. Could you count as vast numbers, the Twenty to Fifty Million (guessing), of Jewish people around the world today? Think about the true number, we now have in the World.

“A great multitude that no-one could count”

Of course we cannot now count them all very well, because that sort of number are always moving, and causing you to forget things. How difficult would it be, to keep reliable records, of so many in one country – especially if these people get scattered all over the World, and do not remain in that country?

In Revelation chapter 7 verses 1 3 – 1 7, it asks: “who are these in white robes”.

They are those (non Jews) who have come out of, (and not suffered) the Great Tribulation. That is, the Non Jews will go to Heaven, and the Jews will be left on the Earth.

The answer is, that Jews will be left behind on Earth, to face the first part of the Great Tribulation alone, but only a part of it. Please note we are told in the Bible that it is the first set of Non-Jews taken to Heaven, who are those in white robes.

It says in Chapter 8 verse 3:

“another Angel, who had a golden sensor, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer with all the prayers of the Saints, on the golden altar before the throne”.

Revelation chapter 8 Verse 4, then says:

“And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand”.

Ascended up towards God. This means it was now ascended from the Earth. This shows that this people, the Jews (SAINTS) had not yet gone to Heaven, but will later.

But we had been told, that the non-Jews, had already been taken to Heaven.

This means that Christians (non Jews) will be taken to Heaven first, before the Jews are taken later. We are told that Pre-Trib will start first, followed by the seven years.

Revelation 1 1 verse 1 8, says:

“And the nations were angry, so their wrath has come, and the time of the dead – that they should be judged, and that they should give reward unto these:

A. Thy Servants, the Prophets

B. The Saints

C. Them that fear thy name, small and great

And should destroy them, which destroy the earth.”

The time has come for judging the bad works of those outside Christ, and for rewarding the good works of the prophets and believers in Christ.

This judging, will destroy those who are opposed to Christ, and who try to mess up His creation – on Earth.

Revelation 1 1 Verse 1 9, then says

“Then God’s temple in heaven, was opened”.

Earlier the Church had been taken to Heaven, but we were never informed before, that the Church was taken into the Temple. They were not yet taken to the Temple.

We were informed that the temple was not yet opened, so why is it now mentioned, that it is now open? This is because other events were needed first, before the temple was ready to be opened.

We know that those saved later, after the Church are taken to Heaven (that is, one third of all Jewish people) will have a very mighty work to do, on Earth first. The opening of the temple, is awaiting the Jewish people to join the Church, first. Once the Jews also, have been taken to Heaven, then the temple will be open to us all.

Revelation 1 3 verse 7, says:

“He was given power, to make war against the Saints and to conquer them”.

That is, that Satan at last, could kill the Jews – but that only opens the door, for them to be able to go to Heaven, as totally saved people.

Satan was then given 4 2 months, to make the left behind World, suffer much more now.

Revelation 1 3 verse 1 0, says:

“He that leads into captivity, shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the Saints”.

This is referring to the trouble caused by the Beast and Satan, who for 3.5 to seven years, is able to be unleashed on the Earth – for a short while. When the time ends, Satan’s time will be ended, and his future will come to an end – of worse suffering to himself, that he has caused.

Before the end of the seven years, there will be a time, when the Beast will be freely worshipped. He will become freed, to control all those who reject Jesus, until the Jews believe. The Jews will then be killed.

Revelation 1 7 verse 6, says:

“I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the Saints (She was involved in Killing them), the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.”

Again, this is referring to the late Jewish people being killed, but it also talks about their salvation. The time now of the Catholics, will lead to multitudes following Satan. Temporarily a fall of the Jews of two thirds, until the believers (a third), die for their faith.

Revelation 1 8 verse 1 9 – 2 0, says:

“Woe! woe, o great city, Where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour, she has been brought to ruin!

Rejoice over her, oh heaven! Rejoice, Saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.

This is referring, to the fall of the unfairly greatly grown Catholic society, and will happen – at the very end times, of the latter Jewish return to Christ. And after the Church has been taken to Heaven.

Revelation 1 8 Verse 2 4, says:

“In her was found, the blood of prophets (death of), and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth”

Revelation 1 9 verse 7 – 8, says:

“For the wedding of the lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear.”

Fine linen, stands for the righteous acts of the Saints. The righteous acts of the Saints, given to the bride Jesus? I have now closely checked all 2 2 books of Revelation, and have not left out, any mention of Saints.

I have written, to show how the book of Revelation, explains the future more clearly – than most realise.

It is clearer, because we are now living in the right time, where that book (for first time ever) is much easier to understand. This is because we are now living in that day.

It now makes much more sense, than ever before.

The Book of Revelation, explains so much of what is now happening for everyone. And it covers more than 2 things for the Church – and then gives the way for Jewish believers.

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One of the purposes of this blog message, is to show the truth of Church salvation now, versus the Jewish believers salvation later. Also, it discusses who the SAINTS are.

One of the purposes of this blog message, and all its writings, is to show absolutely and conclusively – the truth and difference, of the Church Christians. This versus the strong Jewish Israel Christians, of our time now. Also, it discusses who the SAINTS are.

This reveals, how God will work in the very last days, to save different people. We are very near to those days.

The chapters of this salvation, are shown so clearly in Revelation. We all need to open our hearts, and minds, to understand these things clearly. I reveal how the book of Revelation alone, singularly discusses, how the new Jewish believers will become the new “SAINTS”.

Of course the Bible and Revelation, discusses other things, but it is also very revealing of this truth too – of Christians, Jewish believers, and Saints.

The book of Revelation explains, that the word Saint usually refers to an enriched and special set of believers. It does not mean just saved, but means a special set of people, who have been more than saved.

This is an answer to a number of emails I have received. The bad emails want to deny, that God has promised this salvation for the Jews in the future, and they claim – that Revelation does not talk about them.

Their words are not true. I now try to point the truth out, much more clearly.

God has made a special promise, to people. I now discuss these things in a much clearer way.

I want everyone to know, that the true Church, who puts their trust in the work of Jesus alone – is already saved now, by the work of Jesus. Individuals need to understand, our salvation is secure.

Christians are secure now. When the Tribulation starts, they will then, immediately be raptured/taken to Heaven. All those Christians and Jews, saved before this Tribulation starts, will already have been taken to Heaven.

Please note: The laws set by God, are different for Christians, than are set for the unbelieving Jewish people – at the start of the Tribulation.

All left behind Jews, will have to go through this Tribulation time. However, during this time, a third of Jews will be saved, but two thirds will not be.

The way Jews will be saved, during this latter time, may be harder for them. After Christians are taken to Heaven, the Jewish believers left behind, will need to always trust Him – for their New birth salvation.

The church will not suffer all this, as they will have already been taken to Heaven. However, for now until then, the church will still need to continue their serving and loving God.

I now write about the true way of salvation, for the Jewish people, who will be saved – after Christians are taken to Heaven.

Firstly though, I just want to point out, that there are 3 types of people – that I now talk about.

1. I discuss the Church and Christians, as those who will be saved first and now.

2. I discuss the Jewish believers in Jesus, and the Israel believers, to be saved later – after Church has been taken to Heaven.

3. I also discuss the unbelievers. That is, those who are not in the Christian or Jewish camp. They are/will experience the terrible times of no faith.

I need to introduce, the wrong and right ways to believe, and have proper faith. The book of Revelation discusses, that there are 2 4 elders mentioned in Revelation.  These 2 4 elders, are referred to as 2 x 1 2 sets, of serious leaders of God.

These 2 4 elders, are listed as:

A. 1 2 Old Testament, Greatest JEWISH leaders

B. 1 2 New Testament, Greatest JEWISH Apostles of JESUS

The Old testament lists these 1 2:

Reuben,   Simeon,   Levi,   Judah,   Issachar,   Zebulun,   Dan,   Naphtali,   Gad,   Asher,   Benjamin, Joseph (then removed and known later as  Ephraim and Manasseh

Then the new testament lists these 1 2:

Simon,   Andrew,   James,   John,   Phillip,   Bartholomew,   Thomas,   Matthew,   James,   Simon, Judas (son of James),   Judas Iscariot

These two lists together, both add up to 2 4. This tells us, that God is working over 2 sets of 1 2 in the bible, equals the 2 4 elders in Revelation.

Note: Saints are mentioned many times, in the book of Revelation.

These names of Saints are used, and mentioned differently, in Revelation. They are mentioned different in Revelation, than other uses of Saints, in other parts of the bible.

I will now discuss, all the times the words Saints are used, in Revelation.

Why Saints is revealed like this, and what it is saying about God’s way, to continue to save his people – and who they are.

This will open our eyes, to the difference God is showing, about the Church and Israel – in the very last days.

Rev 5. 8, contains the following details:

The 4 living creatures, and the 2 4 Elders. These fell down, before the Lamb. Each one (including the 2 4) had a harp, and they were holding golden bowls, full of incense. These are the prayers of the Saints.

Who are the Saints?

They include the 2 4 elders, and the 4 Living Creatures praying. These are the all time believers, of the Old and New Testament, and are special believers. These have a real big purpose in the future. In this context, please read:

Revelation 1 9: 4.

‘The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried: “Amen, Hallelujah!” ‘

Who are the four living Creatures?

In summary, these 4 beings are an exalted order of angels, whose purpose is primarily that of worship

They are in some ways involved in God’s divine justice. In Revelation 7 verse 1, it states that the 4, are all Angels “4 Angels standing at the 4 corners of the Earth”

The Seven are also mentioned. They are seals (and also spirits of God) etc. The 4 living creatures discuss these. We are all mostly involved, in the first 4 seals.

There are seven that are revealed, in discussions of 4 Angels/Seals and 3 Creatures. A lamb (Jesus) opens all 7 angels and creatures.

Here the word Saints is used. It refers to the special chosen believers, of all time, through Old and New Testament.

Revelation 6: 9 – 1 1

This now discusses the death of the church first, and is known as 5th seal. This is mentioned first, before the salvation and death of Jewish believers is mentioned, and discussed in chapter 6.

That last part, is in Revelation chapter 6, verses 1 2 – 1 7 during 6th seal. We then learn about the 1 4 4,0 0 0 new Jewish believers in chapter 7, as it discusses their Jewish names.

Then a much larger number, are saved later. These are a third of all of Israel, saved at that time. That may end up soon, as multi million people. See my notes, in next 2 passages.

These Jewish people, are shown in chapter 7, and in verses 9 – 1 0. They were “a great multitude that no-one could count”. How many is that, that numbers are lost in our memory?

It must be many millions.

How many people or numbers, is a third of the whole of Jewish people, all over the Earth – right now? The passage is clearly referring to all these immense numbers.

I now reveal what Revelation tells us, about the Saints, and show clearly who these people are. I will now give a full description of the Saints in dark red. The chapter of Revelation is highlighted in brown.

In Revelation chapter 7 verses 1 3 – 1 7 it asks “who are these in while robes”. They are those who have come out of the great tribulation.

They must have been taken out from the great tribulation, before it fully started. The great tribulation, can only begin to start, at the end of the first 3.5 Years. This is after the Church is first taken out, at the beginning of this first 3.5 years.

This is the beginning of the Tribulation, but not the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation, starts after the first 3.5 years has completed. The Church was taken before the first Tribulation started.

The second 3.5 years, will include the time of the Jewish salvation, added to it. We have also just read about the 1 4 4,0 0 0 Jewish believers being saved, so this passage is now referring to the rest of the Jewish people. That is the third of Jews being saved, which is a massive number.

These events all started to happen, after the Church had been taken, and the Jews were left behind, to face the first part of the Great Tribulation, but only a part.

We now first hear about the prayers of Saints and everything mentioned in Revelation about the Saints.

Notice I cannot find any Saints mentioned in Revelation until this time, when these first prayers are mentioned. These are only in the time after the Church has been taken to heaven and not while the Church was on Earth. This is after we hear of the last 6th seal which includes the 1 4 4,0 0 0.

It is only after Church has been taken to Heaven and the Jews left behind on Earth, that the word SAINTS is used.

This is what it says in Chapter 8 verse 3

As “another angel, who had a golden sensor, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer”

With all the prayers of the Saints, on the golden altar before the throne.

Revelation chapter 8 Verse 4

The smoke of the incense together with the prayers of the Saints went up before God from the angel’s hand.

This is first mentioned, after the Church is taken, and the Jews remain on the Earth.

Revelation Chapter 1 1 verse 1 8 says

“the time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your Saints and those who reverence your name”.

This relates to both small and great – and for destroying those who destroy the Earth. This is happening after the Church has been taken, and just before Israel’s ultimate salvation.

Revelation 1 1 Verse 1 9, says

“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened”.

This happens, after Church has already been taken home to Heaven. Earlier the Church had been taken to Heaven, but we were informed that the temple was not yet opened. So why is it now mentioned, that it is now open? This is because, the events mentioned above, were needed first – before the throne/temple was opened.

The throne was not open initially for the Church, but it is now open, after the Jews are saved.

The word Saints usually means, solely consecrated to the Lord for an important job.

In Pre-Revelation days, the work was different, and that could apply to the Church. However, we know that those saved, after the Church are taken – will have a very mighty work to do.

These will be known as Saints because of the nature of their job in those last days.

This word now applies to Jewish believers of the last days as only these can now be known as Saints, because the church is no longer here.

Note that the word Saints is used much more in the latter parts of Revelation and not at the beginning.

This means that the word Saints is much more referring to Israel, and not any longer to us.

Revelation 1 3 verse 7 says

“He was given power to make war against the Saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.”

Only the Jewish Saints remained on Earth and not the Church, at that time. Satan was given 4 2 months at this time, which was in the last days of Jewish Saints being killed.

Revelation 1 3 verse 1 0 says

“this calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the Saints”.

What patient endurance? This is referring to the trouble caused by the beast, who now is able to be unleashed on the Earth.

Revelation 1 4 verse 1 2 says:

“this calls for patient endurance on the part of the Saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus”.

This is referring to a time when the beast is now freely worshipped. He will become freed, until the Jews believe, and then are killed.

Revelation 1 7 verse 6 says

“I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the Saints, the blood of those, who bore testimony to Jesus.”

Again, this is referring to non-Church people, but Jewish people being saved. The time of the false Catholic church, will lead to multitudes following Satan, and there will be a fall of the Jews – until the Jewish believers (a third) die for their faith.

Revelation 1 8 verse 1 9 – 2 0 says

“‘Woe! woe, o great city, Where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! In one hour, she has been brought to ruin!”

Rejoice over her, oh heaven! Rejoice, Saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.

This is referring to the fall of Catholic society, and happens at the very end of the Jewish return to Christ, and after the Church has been taken to Heaven.

Revelation 1 8 Verse 2 4 says

“In her was found the blood of prophets and of the Saints.

Again, this is talking about a major time, at the very end – after the Church has been taken to Heaven, and the saints are still here.

Revelation 1 9 verse 7 – 8 says

“For the wedding of the lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear.”

Fine linen, stands for the righteous acts of the Saints. The righteous acts of the Saints, are given to the bride Jesus? That means the Saints must be the closest to Jesus, with best ever of lives. Who are they? They are the 1 4 4,0 0 0?

Note. This is the last chapter in Revelation, where Saints is mentioned. Last time is in chapter 1 9.

I have now closely checked all 2 2 books of Revelation, and believe I have not left out any mention of Saints.

I have written, to show how the book of Revelation explains the future.

That book is more clear, than most realise. It shows the way to be saved, for the Church, and then for Jewish believers.

I have gone through every example, used in Revelation, of the word Saints – and show that this word is used at that time, to describe the Jewish believers, and the job they are left to do. It is never used to describe the Church, but only the Jews.

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I now give more detailed information, on what Book of Revelation says, about the Saints.

This is my Bible reply, to some questions I have received, since my last blog message – about Revelation discussion on Saints.

The blog reply here, especially covers the information we are given, in Revelation.

I will now explain, some parts of Revelation 5 verse 8, which was not covered in my last blog. But I now explain it. Revelation 5, is the very first time, that Saints was mentioned in Revelation.

It says:

“and when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints”.

This happened at a time when the 2 4 were mentioned. These are the Saints of the whole bible. The 2 4 are:

– the 1 2 leaders in the old testament

– the 1 2 mentioned in The new testament

These 2 4, are the most important leaders, of their time, in Israel.

Revelation chapters 6 and 7, describe Israel and the church, and as shown below – there is a difference in how the church (and then Israel Jewish people) are called home to Heaven.

Powerful people of God, who have a special relationship with God, are especially close to Him. These will always pray, and are known as Saints, due to that special relationship.

Of course, all strong believers have a serious relationship with God, and may have a special fellowship with Him. But there are those like these 2 4, who have an even greater experience of God, or even more special calling to Him.

The 2 4 mentioned in Revelation, reveal this relationship with God, as true. However, this book has another aim, and includes the Churches salvation first – and then goes more into depth, explaining the Jewish salvation afterwards. These afterwards, were the SAINTS.

Revelation explains the much needed prayers, of the Jewish believers, from chapter 8 onward. This comes directly, after the message in chapter 5. It is clear to me, that the book of Revelation reveals a God given purpose, up to chapter 6 – for the Church alone. God also gives details of the 5th seal, for the Church. This up to verse 1 1.

Solely afterwards, we read about the Jewish Saints being saved, after the church is taken. This is from chapter 6 verse 1 2 onward. This occurred as part of 6th Seal. See also chapter 7 in full, re Jews salvation as a separate event.

There should never be confusion over this. It is only then, that we start to read much more, about the SAINTS in Revelation – as being Jewish. That is from last part of chapter 6 and 7.

They are never mentioned in real detail, apart from mentioning the 2 4, and who they are – until chapter 8.

Revelation Chapter 8, is the first time, when the Saints are more fully mentioned – properly. So the first mention of Saints, is after the Church has been taken to Heaven, and all that are left are the Jews.

And after the Church was taken to Heaven, there is never a later discussion, about the church – after they were taken in chapter 6.

We first read about the Jewish people being saved, after the Church has already been taken to Heaven.

The context is, that there are two times involved, between the Church Christians – and then Israel Jewish believers. This seems so obvious.

We all need to honestly, and fairly, open our hearts and minds – to this clarity. I need people to know the amazing wonder, of what God has done for us, to heal – and set us free from a usual death.

To those who know me more, and the hospital surgeons I had, you would declare my amazing healing. These people will surely be aware, that I must have experienced something amazing from God .

This should make it clear to all of us, that I now learn more from God, than ever – and should be listened to. This without you being oddly torn apart, from this truth. So I hope, that everyone will take my words very seriously, and act more seriously on them.

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One of the purposes of this blog message, is to show the truth of Church salvation, now. This versus the Jewish believers salvation later.

I now put the full words in, more clearly.

One of the purposes of this blog message, and all its writings, is to really show absolutely – and conclusively the truth, and difference of Church Christians. This versus, the latter strong Jewish Israel believers, in Christ. Also, it discusses who the SAINTS are.

It reveals how God will work in the very last days, to save different people. We are now very close, to those days.  The chapters of this salvation, is shown so clearly in Revelation. We all need to open our hearts and minds, to understand these things clearly.

I reveal, how the book of Revelation alone, singularly discusses – how the new Jewish believers in Jesus, will become the new “SAINTS”.

Of course, Revelation discusses other things, but it is also very revealing – of this Jewish Saints, truth too.

The book of Revelation, explains that the word Saint, usually refers to an enriched and special set of believers. It does not mean just saved, but means a special set of people, who have been more than just saved.

These have been specifically set aside, for a special purpose, by Jesus/God.

This is the special purpose. These are a latter Jewish set of believers, in Jesus, to obtain great power from God, on the Earth. This will occur, after Christians have first been taken to Heaven, for seven years. This will happen at the start of the final 7 years, on Earth, after Christians have been removed.

These details above, are the true answer, to a number of emails I have received.

The bad emails, want to deny that God has promised this salvation, for the Jews in the future. They state, that Revelation does not talk about the Jews.

Their words are not true. I now try to point the truth out, more clearly.

I thought I had already made the point, that God has made a special promise, to people – in my previous written articles. This point was referring, very clearly, for the future.

But I am now being falsely told, that I haven’t made the point. So, I now discuss these things, in a much clearer way.

I also want everyone to know, that the church now is already saved, and that our salvation – is secure, throughout the completing of the pre-tribulation.

The way Jews will be saved, will be through a much harder time, than the church has ever been through. But the church will not suffer this, because they will first be taken to Heaven.

Israel salvation, will be at a later time, as I now describe. However, they will still need to continue their serving and loving Him now, and then they will be taken.  However, the Jewish believers, will need to always trust Him – for their New birth salvation.

I now write about the true way of salvation, for the Jewish people, who will be saved – after Christians are taken to Heaven.

Firstly though, I just want to point out, that there are 3 types of people – I talk about.

I discuss the Church, and Christians, as those who will be saved now.

I discuss the Jewish believers in Jesus, and Israel believers, being saved later, after Church has been taken to Heaven.

I also discuss the unbelievers, those who are not in the first two camps, as experiencing the terrible times of no faith.

A. First. 1 2 Old Testament Jewish leaders, in the Old Testament

B. Second. 1 2 Apostles, in the New Testament.

The Old Testament, lists these 1 2 first:

SimeonJudahIssacharZebulun,  DanNaphtali,  Gad,  AsherBenjaminJoseph, Levi, Reuben, (the black last two, were later removed, to be replaced by:  Ephraim and Manasseh

The New testament lists these:

Simon,   Andrew,   James,   John,   Phillip,   Bartholomew,   Thomas,   Matthew,   James,   Simon, Judas (son of James),   Judas Iscariot

These two lists, both add up to 2 4 as listed. This tells us, that God is working over 2 sets of 1 2, in the bible – equals the 2 4 mentioned elders in Revelation.

Note: Saints (mentioned far more seriously here) are listed many more times, in the book of Revelation.

These names of Saints are used, and mentioned differently, in Revelation – to other parts of the bible.

I will now discuss, all the times Saints are used in Revelation, why it is done so – and what it is saying, about God’s way to continue to save his people, and who they are.

It will open our eyes, to the difference God is showing, about the church – and Israel, in the very last days.

The 4 living creatures and the 2 4 elders. As mentioned above, this includes God’s people, of all time.

This verse is taken from Rev 5: 8, which contains the following:

“These fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp, and they were holding golden bowls, full of incense, which are the prayers of the Saints“.

So, who are the Saints?

The saints are referred to, as a very special people of God. The first 1 2, were special Jewish Saints from old Testament. The last 1 2 were all special Jewish Christian believers, from New Testament. We have now been through a massive time on Earth, where the Jews, for a time of 2 0 0 0 years – have rejected Jesus.

There will be a time soon now, where there will become a mighty return of Jewish people to Jesus. This will start during the last 7 years, after Christians are taken to Heaven first.

This seven years, will include a time, when the second set of 1 2 people – are represented. They will be involved in a great turning back to the Lord, by a third of all Jewish people, in the World. These will return to Israel for that salvation.

The 2 4 mentioned, as select Jewish people, reveal that the time now – is a special Jewish time returned, of massive repentance. Ask why Israel has become a nation again, after nearly 2 0 0 0 years? It is because we are now closing in, on that time.

For this Jewish time to be successful, Christians need to be taken to Heaven for 7 years first, and taken away from this. The 2 4 include the old and new testament believers, as best believers of all time. They will soon become, much more special, during the very last 7 years.

Who are these four living Creatures?

In summary, these 4 beings are an exalted order of angels. Their purpose, is primarily that of worship (Revelation 1 9: 4). They are also involved in God’s divine justice. In Revelation 7 verse 1, it states that the 4 are all Angels:

“4 Angels standing at the 4 corners of the Earth”

Seven are also mentioned. They are seals, and also spirits of God etc. The 4 living creatures discuss these, but we are all mostly involved in the first 4 seals. A lamb (Jesus) opens all 7 seals etc.

Here the word Saints is used. It refers to the special chosen believers, of all time, through old and new testament.

Revelation 6: 9 – 1 1

This verse, now discusses the death of the church first. It is known as 5th seal. This is mentioned before the salvation, and death of the Jewish believers. The church is mentioned, in verses 1 2 – 1 7 during 6th seal.

The full impact, of these Jewish believers, can be found in chapter 7. In this chapter, it first discusses, all the Jewish Names – in the 1 4 4, 0 0 0. Then it mentions, a much larger number, after these 1 4 4, 0 0 0 have been named, as a THIRD of all Israel – will be saved, at one time.

These Jewish people, are shown in chapter 7 verses 9 – 1 0.

They were “a great multitude that no-one could count”. How many is that, that numbers are lost in our memory?

It must be many millions.  So how many people, or numbers, is a third of the whole of Jewish people – all over the Earth, right now? The passage is clearly referring to these, and will be at a time (like now), when many millions can be saved.

I now reveal, what Revelation tells us, about the Saints. I show clearly who these Saints are. I will now give a further description of the Saints, in green

But, the verse of Revelation, is shown in brown.

In Revelation chapter 7 verses 1 3 – 1 7, it asks, “who are these in white robes”. They are those, who have come out of the GREAT tribulation. That is referring to Jewish saved Saints, during the 7 years.

There are 2 parts of Tribulation. There is the Tribulation time, first 3.5 years, and then the GREAT Tribulation over second 3.5 years.

The Jewish Saints, must have been taken out of the great tribulation, before it fully started getting unbelievable terrible, with Satan’s appearance.

The GREAT tribulation, can only begin to start, after the church is taken out first – during the first tribulation, but not the GREAT tribulation. The great tribulation starts, after the church are taken, and will include the first part of the Jewish people added to it. We have just read, about the 1 4 4, 0 0 0 Jewish believers being saved.

This other passage however, is referring to the later time, of the larger numbers of Jewish people (the third) being saved – and protected. It is a massive number.

These events all started to happen, after the church had been taken to Heaven, and the Jews were left behind – to face the first part of the great tribulation, but only a part.

We now, for very first time, hear about the prayers of the Saints.

Notice I cannot find any Saints mentioned in Revelation, until this time, when these first prayers are mentioned.

These are only mentioned, once that time had come, when the church had been taken to Heaven – and not during the time when the church was on Earth. The first mention of Saints, is after we hear of the last 6th seal, which included the 1 4 4,0 0 0.

This is what it says, in Revelation Chapter 8 verse 3

“Another angel, who had a golden sensor, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with all the prayers of the Saints, on the golden altar before the throne.”

Revelation chapter 8 Verse 4

“The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the Saints, went up before God from the angel’s hand”.

This passage, was first mentioned, immediately after the Church was taken up to Heaven – and the Jews were left behind, to remain on the Earth.

Revelation Chapter 1 1 verse 1 8 says

“the time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets, and your Saints and those who reverence your name.

This relates to both small and great, and for destroying those who destroy the Earth. This is happening, after the church has been taken, and just before Israel’s ultimate salvation.

Revelation 1 1 Verse 1 9 then says

“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened”.

This happens, very shortly after church has been taken to Heaven, but before things happen on Earth with the Jewish people.

A little earlier, the church had been taken to Heaven, but we were informed – that the temple in Heaven, was not yet opened.

But then soon after they had got to Heaven, it is then mentioned, that it is now open? This is because, the right order of events needed to be completed, before that throne was opened.

The throne was not yet open for the Church. They needed to wait a little time. But then the throne is opened a little later, for the Saints to go in, once they are also taken to Heaven – a shortish time afterwards. This shows, there is a slight time gap, between the Church be taken to Heaven and the Saints being able to go into the throne room.

The word Saints usually means, solely consecrated to the Lord for an important job.

In the days before Revelation was written, the work was different, and that word “Saints” could apply to the church. However, we know that those saved later (after the church are taken to Heaven) have a much more mighty work to do. These are the new Jewish believers in Jesus.

These will be known as Saints, because of the nature of their job, in those last days.

This word now applies to Jewish believers, of the last days. Only these, can now be known as Saints, because the church will no longer be here.

Please note, that the word Saints is used much more, in the latter parts of Revelation – and not at the beginning.

This means that the word Saints is much more referring to Israel, and not any longer to us. I will now continue on, from the last message spoken of in Revelation 11: verse 18 about Saints.

Revelation 1 3 verse 7 says

“He was given power to make war against the Saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.”

Only the Jewish Saints remained on Earth and not the church, at that time. Satan was given 4 2 months at this time. This 4 2 months or 3.5 years was during the last days, of Jewish Saints being killed.

Revelation 1 3 verse 1 0 says

“this calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the Saints”.

What patient endurance? This is referring to the trouble caused by the beast, who now is able to be unleashed on the Earth.

Revelation 1 4 verse 1 2 says

“this calls for patient endurance on the part of the Saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus”.

This is referring to a time, when the beast is now freely worshipped. He will become freed, until the Jews believe, and then are killed.

Revelation 1 7 verse 6 says

“I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the Saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.”

Again, this is referring to non-Church people (Jewish believers) being saved. The greater power time of the Catholic church (the woman), will lead to multitudes following Satan. This will be a time, when multitudes of Jewish people, will be killed for being believers in Jesus.

Revelation 1 8 verse 1 9 – 2 0 says

“Woe! woe, o great city, Where all who had ships on the sea, became rich through her wealth! In one hour, she has been brought to ruin! Rejoice over her, oh heaven! Rejoice, Saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.”

This is referring to the fall of the Catholic society, and happens at the very end, of the Jewish return to Christ – and after the church has already been taken to Heaven.

Revelation 1 8 Verse 2 4 says

“In her was found the blood of prophets and of the Saints“.

Again, this is talking about a major time at the very end, after the church has been taken – and the Saints are still here.

Revelation 1 9 verse 7 – 8 says

For the wedding of the lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear”. Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the Saints.

That means the Saints must be the closest to Jesus with best ever of lives. Who are they? They are the 144,000 plus multitudes afterwards?

Note. This is the last chapter in Revelation where Saints is mentioned. Last time is in chapter 1 9.

I have now closely been through, all 2 2 books of Revelation. I believe I have not left out any mention, of Saints.

I have written to show, how the book of Revelation, explains the future more clearly – than most realise. It shows the way to be saved, covers over 2 later periods for the church, and then for Jewish believers.

I have gone through every example, used in Revelation, of the word Saints. I show that this word, is specifically used at that time, to describe the Jewish believers – and the job they are left to do.

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By John Chingford

I am still a born again Christian, after my very serious, expected Death. I always have been one, since I was 18.5 years old. I had a serious car accident in 2017, which almost killed me.

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It is amazing, that the only things I really remember, is that I used to run this blog - and I do remember much about it, and will continue it. Many things have left my memory, but I do remember my salvation and how to serve Jesus/God. I also remember Him, and His needs for me to serve Him, and win others to Him.

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I hope you can use my blog and read it properly. I desire that what God has spoken to me seriously, during and after this accident etc will be revealed to many people.

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