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127 The Pre-Tribulation Period. This includes, explaining who the Saints are. That is, they are the latter Israel, and Jewish Christians

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Preaching the truth, of how the current church will be saved first, before Israel can be saved – as the SAINTS

I reveal, how the book of Revelation, alone – singularly discusses, how the new Jewish believers in Jesus, will become the new “SAINTS”. Of course, Revelation discusses other things, but it is also very revealing – of this Jewish Saints, truth too.

Notice, the word SAINTS, only EVER refer to Jewish Christians. It never refers to Gentile Christians.

The book of Revelation, explains that the word Saint, usually refers to an enriched and special set of Jewish believers. It does not mean, just Saved, but means a special set of Jewish Believers in JESUS – who have been more than just Saved. These have been specially set aside, for a Specific Purpose, by the Lord Jesus.


These are a Latter Jewish set of believers, in Jesus, to obtain great power from the LORD – on the Earth. This will occur, after Christians have first been taken to Heaven, for seven years. This will happen, at the start of the final 7 years on Earth, after Christians have been removed from the Earth.

These details above, are the true answer, to a number of emails I have received.

The bad emails that I received, want to deny that God has promised this salvation, for the Jews in the future. They state, that Revelation does not talk about the Jews.

Their words are not true. I now try to point the truth out, more clearly.

I thought I had already made the point, that God has made a special LAST DAYS promise, to the LAST Israel/Jewish people. That point was referring, very clearly, to their future.

But I am now being told, that I haven’t made the point clear enough. So, I now discuss these things, in a much clearer way.

I also want everyone to know, that the Church is already Saved NOW, and that our Salvation is secure – throughout the completing, of the pre-Tribulation.

The way Jews will be saved, will be through a much harder time, than the Church has ever been through. The Church will not suffer this greater suffering time, because, they will first be taken to Heaven.

Israel Salvation, for most Jews, will be at a Later time, as I now describe. However, the Saved Jews of now, will still need to continue their: serving, trusting and loving Him now. Then they will be taken to Heaven before the Last 7 Years start.

I now write about the true way of Salvation, for the MAJORITY Jewish people, who will be saved later – after Christians are taken to Heaven.

Note: Saints, mentioned far more seriously here, are listed many more times – in the book of Revelation. These names of Saints are used, and mentioned differently, in Revelation – to other parts of the Bible.

I will now discuss, all the times Saints are used in Revelation, why it is done so – and what it is saying, about God’s way to continue to save his people, and who they are.

It will open our eyes, to the difference God is showing, about the Church – and Israel, in the very last days. This verse is taken from Rev 5: 8, which contains the following:

“These fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp, and they were holding golden bowls, full of incense, which are the prayers of the Saints“.

So, who are the Saints?

The Saints are referred to, as a very special people of God. The first 1 2, were special Jewish Saints from the Old Testament. The last 1 2 were all special Jewish Christian believers, from New Testament.

We have now been through a massive time on Earth, over the last 2 0 0 0 years, where the Jews have rejected Jesus.

There will be a time soon now, where there will become a mighty return of Jewish people to Jesus. This will start during the last 7 years, after Christians are taken to Heaven first.

This seven years, will include a time, when the second set of 1 2 people – are represented. They will be involved in a great turning back to the Lord, by a third of all Jewish people, in the World. These will return to Israel for that salvation.

The 2 4 mentioned, as select Jewish people, reveal that the time now – is a special Jewish time returned, of massive repentance. Ask why Israel has become a nation again, after nearly 2 0 0 0 years? It is because we are now closing in, on that time.

For this Jewish time to be successful, Christians need to be taken to Heaven for 7 years first, and taken away from this. The 2 4 include the Old and New Testament believers, as best believers of all time. They will soon become, much more special, during the very last 7 years.

A lamb (Jesus) opens all 7 seals etc.

Here the word Saints is used. It refers to the special chosen believers, of all time, through old and new testament.

Revelation 6: 9 – 1 1

This verse, now discusses the death of the Church first. It is known as 5th seal. This is mentioned before the Salvation, and death of the Jewish believers. The Church is mentioned, in verses 1 2 – 1 7 during 6th seal.

The full impact, of these Jewish believers, can be found in chapter 7. In this chapter, it first discusses, all the Jewish Names – in the 1 4 4, 0 0 0. Then it mentions, a much larger number, after these 1 4 4, 0 0 0 have been named, as a THIRD of all Israel – will be saved, at one time.

These Jewish people, are shown in chapter 7 verses 9 – 1 0.

They were “a great multitude that no-one could count”. How many is that, that numbers are lost in our memory?

It must be many millions.  So how many people, or numbers, is a third of the whole of Jewish people – all over the Earth, right now? The passage is clearly referring to these, and will be at a time (like now), when many millions can be saved.

I now reveal, what Revelation tells us, about the Saints. I show clearly who these Saints are. I will now give a further description of the Saints, in green

But, the verse of Revelation, is shown in brown.

In Revelation chapter 7 verses 1 3 – 1 7, it asks, “who are these in white robes”. They are those, who have come out of the GREAT Tribulation. That is referring to Jewish saved Saints, during the 7 years.

There are 2 parts of Tribulation. There is the Tribulation time, first 3.5 years, and then the GREAT Tribulation over second 3.5 years.

The Jewish Saints, must have been taken out of the Great Tribulation, before it fully started getting unbelievably terrible, with Satan’s appearance. The GREAT Tribulation, can only begin to start, after the Church is taken out first – during the First Tribulation, but not the GREAT tribulation.

The Great Tribulation starts, after the Church are taken, and will include the first part – of the Jewish people added to it. We have just read, about the 1 4 4, 0 0 0 Jewish believers being saved.

This other passage however, is referring to the later time, of the larger numbers of Jewish people (the third) being saved – and protected. It is a massive number.

These events all started to happen, after the church had been taken to Heaven, and the Jews were left behind – to face the first part of the great tribulation, but only a part.

We now, for very first time, hear about the prayers of the Saints.

Notice I cannot find any Saints mentioned in Revelation, until this time, when these first prayers are mentioned.

These are only mentioned, once that time had come, when the church had been taken to Heaven – and not during the time when the church was on Earth. The first mention of Saints, is after we hear of the last 6th seal, which included the 1 4 4,0 0 0.

This is what it says, in Revelation Chapter 8 verse 3

“Another angel, who had a golden sensor, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with all the prayers of the Saints, on the golden altar before the throne.”

Revelation chapter 8 Verse 4

“The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the Saints, went up before God from the angel’s hand”.

This passage, was first mentioned, immediately after the Church was taken up to Heaven – and the Jews were left behind, to remain on the Earth.

Revelation Chapter 1 1 verse 1 8 says

“the time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets, and your Saints and those who reverence your name.

This relates to both small and great, and for destroying those who destroy the Earth. This is happening, after the church has been taken, and just before Israel’s ultimate salvation.

Revelation 1 1 Verse 1 9 then says

“Then God’s temple in heaven was opened”.

This happens, very shortly after church has been taken to Heaven, but before things happen on Earth with the Jewish people.

A little earlier, the church had been taken to Heaven, but we were informed – that the temple in Heaven, was not yet opened.

But then soon after they had got to Heaven, it is then mentioned, that it is now open? This is because, the right order of events needed to be completed, before that throne was opened.

The throne was not yet open for the Church. They needed to wait a little time. But then the throne is opened a little later, for the Saints to go in, once they are also taken to Heaven – a shortish time afterwards. This shows, there is a slight time gap, between the Church be taken to Heaven and the Saints being able to go into the throne room.

The word Saints usually means, solely consecrated to the Lord for an important job.

In the days before Revelation was written, the work was different, and that word “Saints” could apply to the church. However, we know that those saved later (after the church are taken to Heaven) have a much more mighty work to do. These are the new Jewish believers in Jesus.

These will be known as Saints, because of the nature of their job, in those last days.

This word now applies to Jewish believers, of the last days. Only these, can now be known as Saints, because the church will no longer be here.

Please note, that the word Saints is used much more, in the latter parts of Revelation – and not at the beginning.

This means that the word Saints is much more referring to Israel, and not any longer to us. I will now continue on, from the last message spoken of in Revelation 1 1: verse 1 8 about Saints.

Revelation 1 3 verse 7 says

“He was given power to make war against the Saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.”

Only the Jewish Saints remained on Earth and not the church, at that time. Satan was given 4 2 months at this time. This 4 2 months or 3.5 years was during the last days, of Jewish Saints being killed.

Revelation 1 3 verse 1 0 says

“this calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the Saints”.

What patient endurance? This is referring to the trouble caused by the beast, who now is able to be unleashed on the Earth.

Revelation 1 4 verse 1 2 says

“this calls for patient endurance on the part of the Saints who obey God’s commandments and remain faithful to Jesus”.

This is referring to a time, when the beast is now freely worshipped. He will become freed, until the Jews believe, and then are killed.

Revelation 1 7 verse 6 says

“I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the Saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.”

Again, this is referring to non-Church people (Jewish believers) being saved. The greater power time of the Catholic church (the woman), will lead to multitudes following Satan. This will be a time, when multitudes of Jewish people, will be killed for being believers in Jesus.

Revelation 1 8 verse 1 9 – 2 0 says

“Woe! woe, o great city, Where all who had ships on the sea, became rich through her wealth! In one hour, she has been brought to ruin! Rejoice over her, oh heaven! Rejoice, Saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you.”

This is referring to the fall of the Catholic society, and happens at the very end, of the Jewish return to Christ – and after the church has already been taken to Heaven.

Revelation 1 8 Verse 2 4 says

“In her was found the blood of prophets and of the Saints“.

Again, this is talking about a major time at the very end, after the church has been taken – and the Saints are still here.

Revelation 1 9 verse 7 – 8 says

For the wedding of the lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear”. Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the Saints.

That means the Saints must be the closest to Jesus with best ever of lives. Who are they? They are the 144,000 plus multitudes afterwards?

Note. This is the last chapter in Revelation where Saints is mentioned. Last time is in chapter 1 9.

I have now closely been through, all 2 2 books of Revelation. I believe I have not left out any mention, of Saints.

I have written to show, how the book of Revelation, explains the future more clearly – than most realise. It shows the way to be saved, covers over 2 later periods for the church, and then for Jewish believers.

I have gone through every example, used in Revelation, of the word Saints. I show that this word, is specifically used at that time, to describe the Jewish believers – and the job they are left to do.

By John Chingford

I am still a born again Christian, after my very serious, expected Death. I always have been one, since I was 18.5 years old. I had a serious car accident in 2017, which almost killed me.

I was in hospital asleep, for a full 4 months or so, and still find it very hard to remember - many things, which happened before my accident. However, the major thing is, that God has revealed Himself to me very specially. He has awoken me to remember my trust in Him.

It is amazing, that the only things I really remember, is that I used to run this blog - and I do remember much about it, and will continue it. Many things have left my memory, but I do remember my salvation and how to serve Jesus/God. I also remember Him, and His needs for me to serve Him, and win others to Him.

God has now enabled me again, to be able to write very strong messages.

I now write messages that I want you to read. They are clear messages from Him, that should be very easy to read, and lead you all more towards God. Please now read all my 350 blog messages, or so. These blog messages have been written in here, up to Feb 2021.

You will see that they are real and true messages from God, and therefore cannot and should not be ignored. These should open our eyes to what God wants us all to learn in these days.

I hope you can use my blog and read it properly. I desire that what God has spoken to me seriously, during and after this accident etc will be revealed to many people.

I especially want you to know the truth of His free eternal salvation. This cannot be ever lost by those who trust Him, as He Himself gives us all the power to trust in Him. It is His power He gives us, that we can never lose. This is because, this power is retained by Him - not us.

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