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109 Fourth Message. Events NOW happening, and in Heaven later. Church, Israel, Heaven, SAINTS etc. Wonderful Eternal Salvation

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The word SAINTS, in the Bible, refers to the Better saved – Israel. That includes, Old Testament SAVED Israel Believers – before Jesus came. It also relates, to the Very Last Days now, since the new nation of Israel was reborn – in 1 9 4 8. It does not relate, to the saved Church.

The Church, has always been known, as believer saved Christians, Church etc, but never known as SAINTS.

Please notice that the Bible, and in particular Revelation, clearly reveals the Word SAINTS to us. But that word SAINTS, always MAINLY relates, to the latter saved JEWISH PEOPLE.

The Earth will not actually fully end. However, there will be a time coming, when many things (not everything) on Earth, may be destroyed. This will happen in last 3.5 years. Jesus will come back, at the very end, to restore everything to perfection.

This new message, will give greater Whole Bible teaching, on a number of matters.

It includes many events, that will soon happen, and how these will all fit together – as described in the Bible. It teaches the Rapture first, for the Church. Then Israel’s Latter Salvation, after Church are taken to Heaven, FIRST.

Please note, that much of the Bible, and in particular Revelation – could never have been understood, until these latest days, when Israel became a nation again. This was recently, in 1 9 4 8.

Now that Israel are a nation again, and are growing, much of this book can now be understood – about Israel. However, they are mostly still not yet saved, but will be later.

At this point, I need to make clear, that every Christian who has died – up until 2 0 2 3, and Christians taken to Heaven afterwards, will be taken to ETERNAL, PERFECT and GLORIOUS Heavenly joy.

This will be, before the Last 7 Years, of the Pre-Tribulation start. Christians, will all suddenly become changed, perfect, great and wonderful. Christians will be able, to live in Heaven forever, in beauty and perfection.

Please now read this:

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_132.cfm

Especially, please notice these words:

Those Christian believers, who are living at the time of the Rapture, will not have to be Resurrected from death later. They will be changed, while they are alive, from Mortal to Immortality – and from Corruptible to Incorruptible.

Those who are instantaneously changed, at the time of the Rapture of the Church, will now be with Christ Forever – from that time ONWARDS – in their Glorified Bodies.

The Resurrection from the dead, will be what most Christian believers experience. A small number, in comparison, will not die – but THEY WILL BE CHANGED. This was the case, with the Old Testament characters Enoch and Elijah. They also, did not die, but can be seen – as an example of all this.

This event is known as the “Rapture” or “Translation” of the Church.

The Last Seven years, are described in many Blog pages. Also some of it, is in this page 1 0 9.

The Raptured begin, after Church has been taken to Heaven, and then followed by Israel Salvation and the SAINTS.

Much of the future will happen, after Christians are first taken to Heaven, just before Tribulation – and before, the FIRST 7 Years Start. After the Christians are taken, there will then (afterwards) be a great number of Jewish people saved, after accepting Jesus – as their Saviour. They will THEN, be known, as SAINTS.

This will happen, during the Latter and Last 7 Years, and particularly – in the second part. That is, in the very Last part, of the three and a half years.

This last message Above, is as a reminder. It is very important, to know about all this.

As a reminder, the new saved Jewish people, will be known as SAINTS. But when the still living Christians are discussed, they are never known as SAINTS. They are only known as: Born again, Saved, Christian Believers.

The word SAINTS in Revelation, always refers to Israel and not the Church. Please note, the Church has always been known as believers, saved, Christians, Church etc, but not SAINTS.

Moving on:

One of the purposes of this article, is to show more clearly, the difference of our time now – before the Church is taken to Heaven.

1. What will Christians time be like Later?

2. Why does the Church, need to come to Faith now.

These are, to enable it to be taken to Heaven, before it is too late.

My writings will include, looking at some of the teachings, of these:

Ezekiel, Zechariah, Thessalonians, Hebrews, Daniel? And others like Revelation.

Revelation 1 2, Reveals this information:

Christians are safely taken to heaven first, before God starts dealing with Israel on the Earth. These left behind, are initially, one third of unbelieving Jewish people – who will then turn to Jesus during the 7 Years. This is soon, after Church is taken to Heaven.

Satan has limited power, while Christians remain on Earth, until they are taken. Once Christians are taken, then Satan will increase his power, DRAMATICALLY.

Satan can now use his demons etc, and people (but not Himself), to mess lives up – in a small way on Earth now. But he cannot do much yet, himself, until the Church is taken to Heaven.

This is because, Christians are making him lack power, by them being on the Earth now – and preventing Satan from succeeding.

Demons can mainly harm unbelievers, through their current servers, in a Smaller way. But not through Satan direct, yet. Once Christian believers are taken to Heaven, then Satan will be empowered again on Earth, to take over for Seven years, because Christians are no longer on Earth, to prevent this.

Christians prevent Satan from being empowered beforehand, because they have all the mighty power of JESUS, with them. Once they are taken, for a short while, Satan can arrive on Earth – because the amazing Jesus help of Christians, is no longer available. Christians, will now be in HEAVEN, away from the weakening of Satan.

Once Jewish people Later, are saved, they will then at that time – be taken to Heaven. Once these saved Jews are taken, Satan then will gain even greater power on Earth, at that time.  He then will have more power, because hardly any proper believers in the Lord Jesus Christ, are now left behind. Satan will then be able, to unleash his evil power, on the Earth.

Satan’s time will be shortened to 7 years, as God will later, bring the saved Christians and Jewish people -back together again, on Earth. This will be, in their transformed perfect, and most beautiful/glorified bodies.

The saved will be brought back to the Earth, from Heaven, once all things are ready on Earth. These proper believers will all return, about three and a half years later, and after full 7 years or so – have gone by.

Satan will be allowed to come to Earth, after Christians are taken to heaven, but before majority Jewish people are saved, in excess of 1 4 4,0 0 0 Jews. This will be for 7 years.

Satan will come to Earth, to try to mess up the whole teaching of God, on the Earth. His concentration will be on this, whilst there is a short gap (7 years as mentioned) of no saved believers left on Earth.

There will be, a work of evil, after Church is taken to Heaven – but whilst Israel remain here.

The Bible (Revelation), also gives details of protection, during these 7 and 3.5 years.

In these 7 years, Satan will initially protect a Jesus rejecting Israel, and help them survive on Earth – without Jesus for first 3.5 years. This will help Satan, to be able to achieve his Latter Seven year rule, to rule over the whole Earth.

Satan needs the Earth area of Israel etc, to be safe initially, to help him achieve his control purposes – for a short while. This event will continue to happen, and will help Satan initially, until the LATER massive number of Christian Jews – start receiving the teaching of Jesus, into their hearts.

Once these Jews receive Jesus, then Satan will change his plans (for first time), in the Second – three and a half years. He will attack Israel, and cause them to die, but they will go to heaven.

The Bible place Petra, is not mentioned at this time yet. Though it was mentioned, in my other Blog messages: 1 1 9, 1 1 3 and 1 0 8, about Petra. Please read these, which tells you much about Petra.

Petra is clearly referred to, in Revelation 1 2, as a place of protection – during these above mentioned, three and a half years of Israel.

Who was Paul writing to, at this time?

1. Was he writing to just Jews, about how to be saved in Jesus. Or was he writing to Gentiles? Primarily he was speaking to Jews, but also to Gentiles!

2. Why did Paul, apparently swap his line of thought, in Romans 8, and insert chapters 9 – 1 1. This before continuing on again, in chapter 1 2? Some say it was a digression. But I now reveal the real truth.

Purpose of Romans 9 to 1 1

Actually, if you were to read, all the chapters of Romans 1 to 1 6 – you will actually see, that chapters 1 to 8 were a build-up or foundation, to the main aim of his message. The main aim, was within 9 – 1 1. Please Now, read again chapters 9 – 1 1.

Chapters 9 – 1 1 are the KEYS, to understanding the whole Romans Book, Chapters 1 to 1 6. This whole book, together with chapters 9 to 1 1, explains to Israel, how to be properly saved in Jesus.

That whole book (including chapters 1 – 1 6), teaches that the Jews (Israel), who turn to Jesus for salvation (after the Church has been taken to Heaven) – can also be saved, and be part of Heaven. This is the actual real truth, as clearly shown in chapters 9 – 1 1.

Romans 9 to 1 1 reveals, how God plans Salvation for Israel, and Gentiles also.

If the Holy Spirit inspired Paul, to write the Book of Romans, as part of the perfect Word of God – then it cannot possibly be a mistake, because that would not imply inspired perfection. However, the Bible is, the perfect inspired Word of God.

God gives us all Freewill, to choose Him. It is our choice, to choose or not choose.

Therefore, Romans chapters 9 – 1 1 are in the exact right place, for a purpose – to tell us something about God’s purposes and ways, for all people’s Salvation, as will be given to Israel.

You CANNOT make interpretations, from just chapter 9, and from 1 0 to 1 1 – without getting these chapters into the right context, of the whole book of Romans.

Chapters 9 to 1 1 are the main purpose for the book, but you must also read chapters 1 -1 6, to compare what you read – with the main purpose of chapters 9 – 1 1. We must read all the chapters, to clearly give point to that of 9 to 1 1.

Please bear in mind, that when Paul uses the word “you”, he is not talking about one single person – but mostly about many people, who are joined together in Christ.

If we keep that in mind, it immediately removes the idea, that individuals are chosen on their own – without any freewill, on their part. Truth is, that groups (not just one person) are actually being included in the YOU, with freewill in their minds.

God’s plan, before the last seven years start, was that the gentiles would also be saved – with the redeemed people of God. The Church was not a mystery to God. But God was going to bring Jews and Gentiles alike, into one people of God, if they all put their faith in the Messiah Jesus.

Therefore it is true, that the Gentiles, were predestined to become a part of God’s Kingdom. This before the last days, when Jewish people would be saved. The aim of most of Paul’s writings, was no different, throughout the Book of Romans.

Remember, Paul was called to be an apostle to the Gentiles, and often had to explain God’s purposes for the Gentiles, to the Jewish Christian community. Paul demonstrates throughout the book of Romans, that God ‘s eternal plan, was to save every people’s group – not just the Jews.

We have already looked at chapter 9 of Romans. Now we look at two chapters 1 0 to 1 1.

These are the exact words of Romans chapters 1 0 to 1 1.

(A few inappropriate verses are sometimes deleted, as not needed to be read. This done, to get things in better context, and help our understanding of the whole material – in a better way).

Romans chapter 1 0.

1. Brethren, my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for Israel, is that they might be saved.

2. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 

6. But the righteousness which is of faith, speaks on this wise, do not say in your heart, who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above)

9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 2. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

1 3. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

1 4. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 

1 9. But I say, did not Israel know? First Moses saith, I will provoke you to jealousy by them that are no people, and by a foolish nation I will anger you.

2 0. But Esaias is very bold, and saith, I was found of them that sought me not; I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me.

2 1. But to Israel he saith it, all day long, I have stretched forth my hands unto a disobedient and gainsaying people.

Romans Chapter 1 1.

What God says about Israel

1. I say then, has God cast away his people? No, God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

2. God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Do you not know what the scripture says of Elias? how he makes intercession to God against Israel, saying,

3. Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and dug down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.

4. But what says the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

5. Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

7. What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeks for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

8. (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9. And David says: Let their table be made a snare, a trap, a stumbling block and a restoration, to them:

1 0. Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back always. The Ingrafting of the Gentiles

1 1. I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 

1 2. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 

1 4. If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.

1 5. For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving    of them be, but life from the dead? 

1 7. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, are grafted in among them, and with them take part of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

1 8. Boast not against the branches. But if you boast, you endure not the root, but the root thee.

2 0. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Be not high minded, but fear:

2 1. For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

2 2. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity;  but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 

2 3. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. 

2 4. For if thou were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

All Israel Shall Be Saved

2 5. For I would not, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

2 6. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written “There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob”

2 7. For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

2 8. As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

3 0. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

Doxology. Sudden realisation of how much God should be praised and exalted now. Please check: Romans 1 6: 2 5 – 2 7Jude 1: 2 4 – 2 5 Also read this below.

3 3. Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!  how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

I will go on, to say more about Romans 9 to 1 1, below the next topic.

After looking at the book of Romans chapters 9 to 1 1, regarding the showing of God’s latter plans for Israel, we now reveal other chapters in the bible.

Seven Details and Explanations

Daniel 9. 2 7, says again the same things, as confirmation. It uses Seven again.

 “He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven (7 years). In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple, he will set up an abomination, that causes desolation”. 

So, there will be 2 sets of 3.5 years, making up 7 years.

Also please read Revelation 1 1 verses 2 – 3, which mention 4 2 months and 1 2 6 0 days. These both equal 3.5 years.

The time period for these beliefs, is also based on other Bible passages, which mean the same time of 3.5 years.

In the Book of Daniel it says, time, times, and half a time This is interpreted as “three and a half years”. Please note that the word time equals 1 year and the word times equals 2 years. Half a time is half a year.

In the Book of Revelation, “a thousand, two hundred and sixty days” and “forty two months” are mentioned. These both are the same as 3.5 years. As the prophetic month averages 3 0 days, this then means, that time of 1 2 6 0/3 0 days = 4 2 months or 3.5 years.

The 1 2 9 0 days of Daniel 1 2: 1 1, rather than the 1 2 6 0 days of Revelation 1 1: 3 – has reasons for slightly different times. I may explain this later, if important to know.

As mentioned above, I will now continue my discussion on Romans 9 – 1 1.

My above listed writings of all of Romans 1 0 to 1 1, and my earlier explanations of Romans 9, reveal that God has given Israel or Jewish people freewill.

This allows them to make their own decision, to be saved. This also applies to the Church.

In Romans 9, when Paul talked about the potter, he was probably reminded by the Holy Spirit – of Jeremiah 1 8.

That passage, is all about God’s chosen people in the OT, the Jews – and how God wanted to mould them, but they did not allow.

That is interesting. If God does not give them freewill, then how could they prevent God from moulding them, if it is God’s Will to mould them? Of course it is God’s will, to give them freewill.

In the same way Jesus said to Israel in Luke 1 3: 3 4:

“how often I would have gathered you together as a hen gathers her chicks, but you would not”.

God’s choice was to save them, but He was rejected by the people. That means that THEY chose to reject God out of free will.

Here is a portion of Jeremiah 1 8 (verses 3 – 1 2) which says the following, to prove even more about free-will:

“So I went down to the potter’s house, and I saw him working at the wheel. But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands”.

Therefore, the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him. Then the word of the LORD came to me. He said, ‘Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?’ declares the LORD”.

“Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, and if that nation I warned repents of its evil – then I will relent, and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned“.

“And if at another time, I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me – then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.”

“Now therefore say to the people of Judah, and those living in Jerusalem, ‘This is what the LORD says: Look! I am preparing a disaster for you and devising a plan against you. Therefore, turn from your evil ways, each one of you, and reform your ways and your actions.’ But they will reply, ‘It’s no use. We will continue with our own plans; we will all follow the stubbornness of our evil hearts.’

These passages clearly show us, that every human-being, can make their own free-will choice – to follow good or evil, and the Lord will always give us this freedom.

There were also some individual people, not just one person, who wanted to make their own choice – and oppose God.

To those who out of free-will opposed God, then this next message is to them.

Now, let us look at this Romans 9: 2 0 – 2 4:

“But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God?” “Shall that which is formed, say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ ”.

“Does not the potter, have the right, to make out of the same lump of clay – some pottery for special purposes and some for common use“.

“What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath – prepared for destruction?” This is specifically, only referring, to the God haters and rejecters.

“What if he did this, to make the riches of his glory become known, to the objects of his mercy (Jews and Gentiles) – whom he prepared in advance, for glory. Not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?”

Those passages are revealing, how God has the right to choose who He wants (from Jews or Gentiles) to experience His Glory. He does not ever want, to be controlled by Human thought, on this matter – but He will always oppose and remove this aggression of humans.

Above is talking about God’s love for all mankind, and how He has made the way, for Gentiles and Jews to enter in.

God’s choice, is to choose the Gentiles, as a collective group – to become the objects of mercy, and not specifically as individuals.

The unbelieving Jews, as a collective nation, would experience God’s wrath for rejecting Jesus. We are told, that there would be a time, from year 0000 until now – when the Jews would reject Jesus. But we are also told, a latter time would arise, in which they would return to Jesus.

There was a way opened up, for the Jews to be changed, improved and saved by Jesus – when they are ready for Him later.

Romans chapter 1 1 emphasises all this.

Proof that God has not finished with the Jews. Please open and read these 2 messages here.

Present Day Israel Is A Nation Of Miracles, Created By God. The Overwhelming Facts!

Has God Finished With The Jews, And The Nation Of Israel?

There are a growing number of evangelical Christians, TODAY, who are claiming – that God finished with the Jews and Israel, as a Nation, almost 2 0 0 0 years ago.

They claim this began to happen, after Jesus the Jewish Messiah, was crucified.

That terrible wrong thought, would weaken who Jesus is, and weaken his unchangeable perfect ways – which cannot be changed. My writings reveal, that God’s eternal plans and operation, never change.

In fact, most of European Christians, have the wrong thought – that God’s purposes for the Jews, has come to an end.

It seems that support for Israel has diminished, throughout the World, with most support only coming from American believers. In fact, even hatred for Israel, has infiltrated most European churches.

This blog shows why they are so wrong.

The wrong claim, is that Israel has been completely replaced by the church, and that all Old Testament promises for Israel – are ONLY applicable to the church.  Some non-Jews, even question whether the Jews of today really are Jews, and claim that the Jews of today – are of the synagogue of Satan.

This article will address these issues, and go on to prove otherwise. It will prove:

–   that the Jews of today ARE really Jews, and that the Old Testament promises for Israel, are for the Jews.

–   that God has NOT finished with Israel (the Jewish nation), as His people

–   that Israel of today, is TRULY the fulfilment of prophecy.

The present diminished love for Israel, in the World today. Who is the Jew? Why they are truly Jewish

Some claim that all the Jewish women, were raped by gentile Roman men, in AD 7 0 – so no-one knows whether the children born were Jewish, or Gentile?  They suggest that the records were lost, so no-one can be certain anymore, who the true natural Jews are. This writing, will show how this thought, is completely wrong.

If it was true, that true natural Jews do not exist, then why did God tell us otherwise in the Bible – and give so many prophecies, regarding the Jews, about the end times?

Zechariah refers to a natural Jew, in chapter 8 verse 2 3

This is what the LORD Almighty says: “In those days 
ten men from all languages and nations, will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe, and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’ ” ”

The next part of this message, will be completed later, on blog page 1 0 0.

By John Chingford

I am still a born again Christian, after my very serious, expected Death. I always have been one, since I was 18.5 years old. I had a serious car accident in 2017, which almost killed me.

I was in hospital asleep, for a full 4 months or so, and still find it very hard to remember - many things, which happened before my accident. However, the major thing is, that God has revealed Himself to me very specially. He has awoken me to remember my trust in Him.

It is amazing, that the only things I really remember, is that I used to run this blog - and I do remember much about it, and will continue it. Many things have left my memory, but I do remember my salvation and how to serve Jesus/God. I also remember Him, and His needs for me to serve Him, and win others to Him.

God has now enabled me again, to be able to write very strong messages.

I now write messages that I want you to read. They are clear messages from Him, that should be very easy to read, and lead you all more towards God. Please now read all my 350 blog messages, or so. These blog messages have been written in here, up to Feb 2021.

You will see that they are real and true messages from God, and therefore cannot and should not be ignored. These should open our eyes to what God wants us all to learn in these days.

I hope you can use my blog and read it properly. I desire that what God has spoken to me seriously, during and after this accident etc will be revealed to many people.

I especially want you to know the truth of His free eternal salvation. This cannot be ever lost by those who trust Him, as He Himself gives us all the power to trust in Him. It is His power He gives us, that we can never lose. This is because, this power is retained by Him - not us.

6 replies on “109 Fourth Message. Events NOW happening, and in Heaven later. Church, Israel, Heaven, SAINTS etc. Wonderful Eternal Salvation”

Hi, have you read everything? This includes passages I know to be true and a lot of very strong believers preach same thing. Although the teaching on Saints as meaning Jews and does not mean Christian, is not realised by enough people. Realising this will helps us to understand the teaching of the bible and contexts, much more.

Do you understand this?

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Interesting for this new revelation about ‘saints.’ I have read half of it. Will continue reading as soon as i got the chance to focus on it. Praise God for your life. God bless you more.

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