375 New Frontiers are Ecumenically Joined, to False Rome. Proof given

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Example of New Frontiers etc, Ecumenically joined to Rome

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New Frontiers ARE Ecumenically Joined To Rome. The Evidence.

This report is copied, from the comments section, within here:

List Of (Probable) False Christian Leaders, False Christian Teachers and False Prophets (As Indicated By The Ecumenical or Heretical Organisations They Belong To)

This shows, why the New Frontiers Church Movement, is Ecumenically joined to Rome.  Please look at some of its:

– History

– Activities

– Associations

The New Frontiers Movement, is a Dangerous False Christian Group, to be involved in. The very famous Terry Virgo, is also joined to New Frontiers.

Some time ago, I read Terry Virgo’s Blog.

He did not, and will not, speak against False Revivals.  Would he not condemn them, if he was a good Christian?  But he does not condemn, but actually supports them. Why?

What does that truly tell you, about Terry Virgo?

Terry even allows the Terrible False Believer, named Todd Bentley, to carry on – with his terribly perverted Lakeland Revivals!?

Of course Terry wouldn’t condemn it, because New Frontiers are part of his Very Bad Support, of Ecumenical Rome.  They are on the Frontline side, of “these False Experiential revivals”, Like Toronto.

New Frontiers are attached to, and are supporters of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). These organised their False Satanic Event.

NAR were previously known, under various names, including the name Latter Rain.

 New Frontiers are co-workers with NAR.

This is a video of Chuck Pierce of New Apostolic Reformation, who works alongside C Peter Wagner.   It sounds so evil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfkkWx4DLuk&feature=player_embedded

This video in blue above, illustrates how weird, the NAR are becoming.  It sounds so Demonic.

Here is another excerpt below, regarding New Frontiers. This was written before the Lakeland revival.  It proves the point, about them, from here.

However, this next message, seems to have been removed now, unless you can help me find it:

http://www.birthpangs.org/articles/background/restuk3.html

Branching out, from their former isolation, and Tight doctrines – they have become Ecumenical, and almost Liberal. They are networking, with every church group imaginable.

The Restoration Fellowships, together with Elim Pentecostal Fellowships, were also in the Forefront – of these FALSE Movements:

– Toronto

– Promise Keepers

– Pensacola

These above 3, are all False Christian Controversies, and are all False People.  This was already proved, as they had promoted the Kansas City Prophets, earlier on.

Restoration Teachings, are responsible, for infecting almost every branch of British church life – badly. Their goal of Full Visible Unity, seems to draw nearer, every year. Successive churches will succumb, to their bad influence.

What is Real/True success? True success is allowing Jesus to reign in us (on Earth), and Jesus have His way, and not us.

But success will never come properly, when mere people, have their victory – but do not allow Jesus/God, to have His victory.

This link, also gives this:

However, this next message, seems to have been removed now, unless you can help me find it:

http://www.birthpangs.org/articles/background/restuk2.html

The Full History Background, behind the New Frontiers Movement, comes next.

As I got drawn into, that False Movement (myself), during the 1 9 8 0′s and the 1 9 9 0′s – I DO know, that the above happenings, is completely TRUE.   However for now, let me start, by asking some questions:

Does New Frontiers, support any of the Following:

– Latter Rain

– Manifest Sons Of God

– Word of Faith

– Shepherding Movement

– Spring Harvest

– New Breed

– Joel’s Army

– New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)

– Third Wave Movement

– Vineyard

– Toronto Blessing

– Pensacola and Lakeland Revivals

– Alpha

– TBN

– Seeker Friendly

– Purpose Driven

– Emerging Church

– Hill Song

– Promise-Keepers

– Renovaré

– Elijah List (List of Prophetic Ministries)

– Manhattan Declaration,

– Westminster 2 0 1 0 Declaration

– THE MESSAGE

– Lausanne Movement

– International Apostolic Council (IAC)

– International Coalition of Apostles (ICA)

YES!  Actually, New Frontiers DOES support/associate with most (if not all), of this above list.

All of these listed above, are Ecumenical.  Being Ecumenical, means Following the Catholic religion.  Bad and False Christians, are joined to the Roman Catholics. Some of these Catholics, have also incorporated, New Age practices.  This means, that all this, is joined together – making all those joined, as Catholics.

If anyone, or any group, are joined to any of these New Age practices – they are also part of the Ecumenical Train.  As stated, this Ecumenical Train, is Catholic.  They must be badly affected, by Roman Catholics and Rome.

Did you know, that the history behind the Restoration Movement, came out of the Latter Rain Movement? This movement, was heavily influenced, by the Shepherding Movement – and the Lauderdale 5.

1 9 6 0′s:

We had Vatican II, Ecumenical Resolution. The Vatican, are part of the Roman Catholic organisation.  From this time onwards, the Vatican have been seeking ways, to get Protestants back into their fold – and have used any means.

1 9 7 1:

The First, International Charismatic Conference, held in Guildford in 1 9 7 1 – was described by some, as the “Coming of Age of The Renewal”.

It was attended, by 4 0 Lutherans and 3 0 Roman Catholics, and one of the main speakers was – Kevin Ranaghan.  The person known as Mr Pentecost, was David Du Plessis.  He was also there.

1 9 7 2:

Cardinal Suenens,  became intimately involved in the Renewal, and introduced it – to the Catholic Charismatic movement

1 9 7 4:

Martin and Clark teamed up with the  ” Fort Lauderdale Five “. These were:

– Bob Mumford

– Charles Simpson

– Derek Prince

– Don Basham

– Ern Baxter.  He was former secretary, to William Branham

These 5 were the founders, of the Shepherding Movement. This later, became known as the Charismatic Movement.

Yes, Friends, the Shepherding movement, came first!

They were joined by John Poole, another Latter Rain adherent. Together, these men established a group, for Ecumenical Renewal.

A council was Elected, whose existence was kept secret.  This is because, it was not acceptable at that time, for Protestants – to “labour in the Gospel” with Catholics.

For the Shepherding Movement, the money and power of the Vatican, were attractive.  They were attractive for Martin and Clark.  These two, were mentioned above.

It was a golden opportunity, to begin implementing, the Ecumenical and Charismatic aspirations. These were from, the Catholic Vatican II.

If you look at the history of Latter Rain, which I have already dealt with, on this blog – you will see, that they have Occult Origins.

Note, that from Latter Rain, then New Frontiers Emerged.

It was said, that New Frontiers, is separate from Restoration churches. However, it is easier to get out of the Restoration Movement, than it is to get the New Frontiers – out of  Restoration.

Terry Virgo, is still heavily influenced, by his New Frontiers background.  He shows this, by leading New Frontiers, down the same path as:

– Latter Rain

– Joel’s Army

– Manifest Sons of God

– New Breed

– New Apostolic Reformation

– Promise Keepers

These are following the same path. No wonder New Frontiers, follow the False Revivals.

If I am wrong, please prove it to me.  I am happy to be corrected, if I am wrong.  However, the evidence that I have found, and revealed to you, are enormously immense.

The Evidence is overwhelming, that New Frontiers Leadership, are influencing the churches – to become Ecumenical.

They are Encouraging everyone, to follow the New Paradigm, of experiences – in place of and above, what the Bible teaches.

For example, C Peter Wagner, teaches that New Revelation – is just as important, as older revealed Biblical Truth.

That teaching of C Peter Wagner, is ABSOLUTE NONSENCE.  New Revelation of MAN, cannot ever, replace Older Bible Truth, given by Jesus/God.

Replacing could happen, if too much emphasis is focused on the new, and the old gets ignored. This is what they are actually doing, as False, and it is terrible.

Also that False Teacher, teaches, that “The End, justifies the means”.  Where does the Bible say that? In Fact, the Bible teaches the opposite.

So Deception, and using Occult Practices, is okay (according to them) –  if it produces:  Decisions for Christ? NO WAY!

C Peter Wagner has got his fingers in countless pies, and seems to be one of the Greatest Influences, of the very poor Evangelical and Charismatic churches. They are becoming Ecumenical, in our day.

Quite honestly, the New Frontiers, has a very Questionable Foundation. They were born, out of the Restoration Movement. They DEFINITELY associate, with Charismatic Catholics.

Whatever they pretend to say, they are still Catholics, and they choose to be attached to Rome – even if they are Charismatic.

They are still part of the Vatican II resolution, to bring about the unifying of evangelical churches, to Rome.  If anyone, or any group, associates with Rome (in any way) – they are Ecumenical.

The Word Associates, means to actually follow some of Rome’s Doctrines, and belong to them.

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Some say, that most New Frontiers Leaders, are Actually Opposed – To Ecumenism.  But, is that really true, that these leaders – are opposed to uniting, with the Catholic church???

The Evidence shows (in reality), that they are not opposed, and DO actually work tirelessly in the shadows – towards unity with Rome.

What New Frontiers say, and what they do, regarding Ecumenism and Catholic church – don’t match up!!!

It reminds me, of the instructions given to junior Jesuits, before they take the OATH of Jesuit Catholics. These are the words, given now, that Catholics and leaders – need to quote:

” My son, heretofore you have been taught, to act the dissembler – to be these things: “

– Among Roman Catholics, to be a Roman Catholic

– To Be a Spy, even among your own Brethren

– To Believe No Man

– To Trust No Man.

And also:

– Among the Reformers, to be a Reformer

– Among the Huguenots, to be a Huguenot

– Among the Calvinists, to be a Calvinist

– Among other Protestants, generally to be a Protestant

To:

– Obtain their Confidence

– Seek even to Preach from Their Pulpits

– To Denounce, with all the Vehemence in your Nature – our Holy Religion, and the Pope

– Descend so Low, as to Become, a Jew among Jews. That you might be Enabled, to gather Together, all Information – for the Benefit of your Order, as a Faithful Soldier, of the Pope.

You have been Taught, to insidiously, plant the seeds of jealousy and hatred – between:

– Communities

– Provinces

– States that were at Peace

– Incite them, to Deeds of Blood

– Involving them in War, with each other

– Create Revolutions, and Civil Wars, in countries that were independent – and Prosperous. Cultivating the Arts, and the Sciences, and enjoying the Blessings of Peace”

These above Words, are continued, in the thinking of Evil ones – who are opposed to God’s real truth. They now say, these newer words:

“To take sides with the combatants, and to act secretly with your brother Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other side.

The Jesuit is openly opposed, to that with which you might be connected. The Church might be the gainer in the end, in the conditions fixed in the treaties for peace, and that the end justifies the means.”

The following was written, by previous Pope’s etc, as Firm Instructions – of the Terrible Things, that they wanted to apply to their servants etc.

“You have been taught your duty, as a spy, to gather all statistics – facts and information in your power, from every source.

This to ingratiate yourself, into the confidence of the family circle, of Protestants and heretics – of every class and character.  Also, of these, THE:

– Merchant

– Banker

– Lawyer

– Schools and Universities

– Parliaments and Legislatures

– Judiciaries and Councils of State

And to be all things to all men, for the Pope’s sake, whose servants – we are unto death.”

“You have Received all your Instructions, heretofore: as a novice and neophyte. You have served as co-adjurer, confessor and priest, but you have not yet been invested – with all that is necessary, to command in the Army of Loyola, in the service of the Pope.

You must serve the proper time, as the instrument and executioner, as directed by your superiors.  For none can command here, who has not consecrated his labours, with the blood of the heretic.  For “without the shedding of blood, no man can be saved.”

Therefore, you need to do the following, to fit yourself for your work, and make your own salvation sure.  You will in addition, to your former oath of obedience, to your order – and in allegiance to the Pope, repeat after me”

Posted by John Chingford at 6: 2 6 pm

Labels: Ecumenical Organisations LIST, Ecumenical Organisations Specific Info, False Teachers and Prophets, Heresy Watch, Info On Specific Ecumenical Organisations, Rise Of Apostasty

John Chingford

An important note now, re my writings above, for you to read first. This helps us have more clarity, over my writings above.

Most of the original essence, has not changed.  It is now, that a few words have been changed, to make things easier to read, but the essence is still mostly there.

I have now changed the writing/detail, of all the above now.  I now use wording, that is much easier to read, and be understood.

2 comments:

Anonymous said…

Thanks for this post. I was thinking about attending a New Frontiers Church:but after this I will not do so, thank you for alerting me to this deception. God bless your ministry.

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Anonymous said…

I currently attend a New frontiers Church that became a NF one only about 6 years ago. The elders are gradually moving things towards the weird and constantly encourage people to speak in tongues, prophecy (i.e. God is showing me a picture blah blah.. usually nothing relevant), healing.

While all or some of these are not wrong there is no emphasis on reading the bible (virtually no one actually reads scripture) so when some one get “a picture” most people don’t realise it is unscriptural.

No bible study, there is a mid week meeting that is more of a support group than anything else.

I am now looking for a different church.

Also in your post you have mentioned Terry VIrgo not condemning the weird, he has written books and blogs actually praising them!!

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