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Are we experiencing True Church Revival, in these Last Days? What is Really happening? How church will conquer Satan, before 7 years start!

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Are We Seeing True Church Revival, In These Last Days

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There are many, who wrongly declare, that the Bible Prophesy Revival – is for the End Times Church ONLY. They declare that God has already totally finished with Israel. They point to what is known, as Megachurches. 

Megachurches, are multiple numbered people, in these churches, of our day now.

This large number, also contain a very large church growth, to prove this. They believe revival will happen, before the church is taken to Heaven, at the very end of the last Seven Years.  They believe this will happen, before the Seven Years start.

That is a very False Post Tribulation view, and it totally ignores, Israel’s Latter Salvation.  Israel’s latter SALVATION, must come, during the last 7 years.

Jewish Latter Salvation, will come, after Gentile Church –  have first been taken to Heaven, for Seven Years first.  I now need to explain, and point some things out, very clearly.

There is a difference, in time views, of Christians.  We must understand, that the Bible clearly talks about the differences between Gentiles and Jews.  They will both, at different future times, become followers of Jesus.

We are now in the time of the Gentiles, which is explained, up until Revelation 6.  They will then go to Heaven, per Revelation 6.

But the Jews are left behind.

Revelation 7, then totally changes its Gentile style of talk, to now only focus – on Jewish style of conversation.  New salvation, is now related to the Jews, and no longer are saved Gentiles mentioned – after Revelation 6.

Then from chapter 7 onwards, it talks about a third of all Jewish people, being saved.  This is AFTER the Christian Gentiles, have already been removed to Heaven, at the start of the last 7 years.

Post Tribulation wrongly believe, that this Jewish end time salvation – will never happen.

The truth is, that the Jewish revival, can only start happening – after (not before) the Christian Church is taken to Heaven, first.

The Christian Church in Heaven, needs to have already been taken to Heaven,  before Jewish people – can be saved on the Earth.

The revival that Megachurches want, will actually not happen with them. This is because, they are False people. Great salvation, will certainly not start, through False people – nor until the 7 years start. This seven years, will include a third of Israel being saved, by Jesus –  after True church is already taken to Heaven.

We can actually see in the Bible, that the last days, will not see miraculous revival – until the Church are taken out of the way, to Heaven first. Once church is taken to Heaven, it will then leave Jewish people, and non Christian people – behind on Earth.

The Megachurches type of Preaching, is in error.  It is all Force, and lying exaggerations.  I will not get into debate, on this specific post. However, the BIBLE does actually teach, the following:

There will be a time, during the Last Days, which mostly ushers in Apostasy.

This Apostasy, is what is now happening, and what my Blog keeps teaching about. This Apostasy, will be before the very last 7 years Tribulation starts.  It will not create, a great church growth, until the 7 years start.

This does not discount, that there could be a Few, Local Revivals – big or small.  But these will be nothing, in real activity, compared with the real truth – of what will amazingly happen – during the very last 7 years. Especially in the first 3.5 years.

Certainly, there will be a Latter Last Days Revival, on Earth – after real Christians, are taken to Heaven, for 7 years. This last 7 years, will take place with Israel, and be during the Pre-Tribulation period – when Gentile Christians are already  in Heaven.

During this time, there will be Latter Day New Christians, who are now left on Earth – as new believers.

These new Christians, will then leave the False Apostate Church, and then face certain death. This will happen, with new Jewish Christian people, and be after – the Apostate Movement/people, has fully developed, into something very Frightening.

Most believers welcome revival, if it is true. They do not dismiss, but do want to see, some form of revival – in the Last Days.  But any true revival, must be real and from God, and NOT Produced/Pretended – and instigated by Man.

Jesus said, that HE will build His Church. That is, HE will Build, and not Man.  The Bible book of Acts says, the Lord added to the Church Daily, those who were being saved. That mentions the Lord added, and not Men added.

Any True Church growth, MUST be a revival, from the Holy Spirit – that is brought into place supernaturally, by GOD, and not by MAN. This will happen by Gold, despite any effort to manipulate things, by men.  God will intervene and do it, and IT WILL BE BIBLE BASED.

Problem is that church leaders, have sought worldly means,  to achieve revival. This is because, they are too desperate, to receive revival. They say, that they welcome any means, that will bring church growth.  It does not seem to matter, whether it is truly from God, or not. Their terrible main means, is to receive revival, in any way – even False/Invented ways.

What we actually see happening, is Man’s own ideas and Man’s Programs, bringing about their (not God’s) – Church growth.  But where is the True Power of God?

This is what is happening?   People are given exactly what THEY WANT, rather than, what THEY NEED, Through Jesus.

In the Marketing world, they say,  “Give the people WHAT THEY WANT – not WHAT THEY NEED”.

That is, Anti-God, Supply/Demand Principles.

The Bible however, states the opposite.  It states, that man is:

– Lost

– Sinful

– Hell Bound.

Man therefore, NEEDS TO BE SAVED,  regardless of whether they WANT this – or not. This is what we MUST Preach.

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We must Preach the Truth, regardless of whether people join the church, or desert it.  Jesus did not tell the people, what they wanted to hear. Neither did the Apostles. They all said some hard things, to the extent, that some walked away in sadness – like the rich young ruler.

Jesus said:

“Wide is the Way, that leads to Destruction”, and  “Narrow is the Path that Leads to Life”.

Jesus also Said:

“Let a Man Deny Himself, take up his Cross, and follow Me”.

Jesus was NEVER concerned, about offending his hearers, but He ALWAYS spoke the Truth – whether they accepted it, or not.

Jesus said some very harsh, and harder things, to the Bad – and Harder, religious authorities, who rejected His ways.  Also, Jesus said other things, to those who were weak in following Him.

Many were offended, on what Jesus said.  But it is the Truth, that Truly/Deeply Converts the Soul. We should not just tell people, what they want to hear, but we should tell them – the absolute truth.

Actually, the weaker conversation, doesn’t help save properly – but produces superficial conversions.

To be a Disciple of Jesus, requires Guts and Determination. This is Especially Needed, if you are in a Hostile Persecution Environment. This Guts and Determination, is for Godly Adults, who will follow Jesus – whatever the Cost.

This Determination, is not for those, who want to:

– Remain as Babies

– Be easily Spoon Fed

– Be molly-Coddled.

The message needs to be “Told, As It Is”, and not be watered down, to suit the hearers.

If the True Message is preached, and it is followed by TRUE Church Growth, then this MUST be – all of God’s doing. This Church, will become full, of born-again saved believers.

This needs to be of God’s doing, rather than Man’s.  The sinful nature of Man, does not want to be told, that he/she needs a Saviour. They will not respond, to the full message, of the Gospel.

So, if these are converted, it MUST be a miracle of God, with true Holy Spirit conversion.

As a supplement to this article, I have written another article, dated 6 Dec 2 0 1 0.  This shows, how the so-called revivals, of the late 2 0th and 2 1st Century – are actually the result, of the False Apostate workers.  Please now, also be aware of, the:

“Seeker Sensitive” approach.

Please click, on this following shortcut link, to go there.

Background To Why The Twentieth Century Evangelical Church Became Apostate

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Labels: Errors Of Experiential Christianity, Rise Of Apostasy

John Chingford

An important note now, re my writings above, for you to read first. This helps us have more clarity, over my writings.

Most of the original essence, has not changed.  It is now, that some smaller words have been changed, to make things easier to read.  But the essence, is still mostly there.

I have now changed the writing/detail, of all of the above, now.  I now use wording that is much easier to read, and be understood.

7 comments:

kiwi said… 

I don’t think we will see true Church revival as the original 1st century faith has been corrupted God is always sending revival but to individuals not to churches or organisations.

These individuals are quietly finding each other slowly but surely through the internet. We are witnessing to our families and friends but the world does not want God just as it was predicted in the Bible.

What I found was Revelation TV on Sky channel 5 8 1 (was 5 8 5 until 1st April) The station calls itself the Church Without Walls and is great for people like me who don’t have a bible-lead church to go to. In our village there are 4 churches:

A Pentecostal church, a Jehovah’s Witness church, the Salvation Army and a Church in Wales (more or less like C of E).

But, people are meeting other people with the same views via the internet and they can have video conferencing or have Bulletin Boards where they can teach/learn and discuss the Word, current world events and fellowship with each other.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. 

Dan 1 2: 4 I think this refers to the Internet, isn’t there a satellite called the Angel ? I’m not sure.  Anyway, I have learnt more over the Internet in the last 9 years about the Bible, the Jewish roots of Christianity, Revelation and end times than I ever did when I was in the church for 2 0+ years.

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John Chingford said… 

This has been copied, and pasted, from a conversation –  within my post  “Why We Should Reject Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven and PEACE Agenda”

This was my conversation.

John Chingford said… 

Mr E, are you suggesting, that the church growth explosion we see today – proves, that revival is prophesied in the bible, during the last days?

I like most believers, welcome true revival, and do not dismiss – that there could be some form of revival, in the last days.  But any TRUE revival, must be from God, and not instigated by Man.

Jesus said,  that HE (not men), will build HIS church.  The Bible chapter of Acts, says the Lord (not men), added to the church daily, those who were being saved. Any true church growth, MUST be a revival of the Holy Spirit, and WILL be Bible based.

Problem is, that church leaders (being desperate for revival), have sought worldly means to achieve it.  They say, that they welcome any means, that will bring in church growth.

So what we see happening, is MAN’S ideas and Man’s programs, which bring about church growth – through giving the people, what they want, rather than what they need.

In the marketing world, they say “Give the people what they want – not what they need”.  That is, supply/demand principles. The Bible however, states the opposite, that Man is:

– Lost

– Sinful

– Hell Bound

They NEED to be saved, regardless, of whether they WANT this or not. This is what we MUST preach.

We must preach the truth, regardless of whether people join the church, or desert it.  By doing this, then if there is church growth, full of born-again saved believers – then it MUST be all of God’s doing, rather than Man.

This is because, the sinful nature of Man, does not want to be told – that he needs a Saviour.

Mr E  said… 

John, In answer to an earlier question, I don’t think there’s any dispute there. In my book revival, it is a sovereign move of God, and not something men can manipulate – other than through prayer.

It’s something of an American phenomenon, to call evangelism “revival”, but to me that’s a misappropriation. I would also say, that some things labelled as “revival” are not.

Revivals are distinct, from mission and evangelism, neither of which should be denigrated – that’s what we’re called to do. I also believe that the church, will grow in the last days, like the rock cut – from the mountain in Daniel, to fill the earth.

Church growth, arising from a move of the Holy Spirit, accompanied by genuine repentance – is something we should look for, pray for and embrace.

John Chingford said… 

Hi Mr E

Again thanks for your reply. You quote from Daniel chapter 2,  about the rock cut out, but not by human hands.

I have read that passage through, and through many times, comparing it with other scriptures. Surely the passage, DOES NOT indicate, a specific end times global revival?

In the context, it seems to be talking about Jesus, and His setting up of His church – on the Earth.  This is sometime, DURING the individual empires mentioned.  That is, as in AD 3 0.

This kingdom will NEVER end, and will outlast all the kingdoms on the Earth.  Ultimately, it will not just outlast them, but will bring them to an end – by God’s doing, and not man’s action.

We know that Jesus will return, and reign (with His church) on Earth, for a thousand years.  God says that we will rule over nations, in that millennial kingdom.  But beforehand, God will pour out His wrath, on the Earth.

So surely the crushing, refers to the judgement of God, followed by the thousand year reign?

Whenever the scriptures, refer to:

– God’s Reign on Earth

– Ultimate Peace on Earth

– The Glory of the Lord, covering the Earth

It is talking about the same event, of Jesus’s physical reign on Earth, with His church. The church has been changed, in an instance, and transformed into the image of Christ. That is:

“The Mortal putting on the Immortal”.   1 Cor 1 5.

Surely Daniel 2, is not talking about a Pre-Millennial Global revival, but a Millennial one?

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Wary said… 

Daniel context is definitly sited at the end of the 7 year Tribulation when Christ THE Rock returns in the 2nd Coming and smashes to Smitherines all Gentile government. This is the end of the ‘Times of the Gentiles’.

The Rock that will fill the earth with the government upon His shoulders is during the 1 0 0 0 year rule of Christ Jesus on this present earth.

The Bible nowhere prephecies an entime worldwide revival, rather the apostaste, lukewarm Laodicean church is prophecied which will turn into the GREAT Apostasy during the rule of antichrist.

Sue

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John Chingford said… 

For those who get my Automatic Updates, please note, I have edited this older article – and crosslinked it, to a new article. This was written, on 6 Dec 2 0 1 0.

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