Page 121. This replaces second part of 1 0 9, and continues on, from the even better Page – of 1 2 0.
The word Saints in Revelation, always refers to Saved Israel, and never refers to the Saved Church.
The Church has always been known as: saved believers, saved Christians, saved church etc, but has never been considered as Saints.
Please notice, Revelation clearly reveals who the Saints are. It starts, once in Revelation chapter 5, and then keeps using the word Saints – in chapter 8 onwards. This is the same time, that Israel salvation, starts to be mentioned.
The Earth will not actually fully end. But there will be a time coming, when many things on Earth, may be destroyed – but not everything. This will happen, in the very last three and a half years (of the seven years). Jesus will come back, at the very end, to restore everything to perfection.
This second part message, will give greater Whole Bible teaching. It includes many events promised, that will soon happen, and how these will all fit together – as described in the Bible.
It teaches the Second Coming for the Church, together with Israel’s Latter Salvation afterwards, but with the Church taken to Heaven first. It also explains, who a true Jewish person really is, and why these – must actually be promised Jews.
Now, let us look again at Romans 9: 2 0 – 2 4:
“But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall that which is formed, say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ ”
“Does not the potter have the right, to make out of the same lump of clay, some pottery for special purposes – and some for common use”.
Romans 9: 2 2
“What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience – the objects of his wrath, prepared for destruction?”
Romans 9: 2 3 – 2 4
“What if he did this, to make the riches of his glory become known, to the objects of his mercy (Jews and Gentiles), whom he prepared us in advance for glory”.
“Not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?”
Those verses above, talk about God’s choice to choose the gentiles, as a collective group first – to become the objects of mercy. And that the unbelieving 2/3 Jews, would experience God’s wrath, for rejecting Jesus.
This would happen for a while, after the gentiles have been saved and taken to Heaven, and before the 1/3 saveable Jews then (at the end) reach out properly – to God, for their own salvation.
That is again emphasised, in Chapter 1 1. Please also read chapter 1 0 to 1 1 other messages, which give Proof, that God has not finished with the Jews. Please also open and read these.
Present Day Israel Is A Nation Of Miracles, Created By God. The Overwhelming Facts!
Has God Finished With The Jews, And The Nation Of Israel?
There are a growing number of evangelical Christians, TODAY, who are claiming – that God finished with the Jews and Israel (as a Nation), almost 2 0 0 0 years ago. They claim this began to happen after Jesus was crucified, and the Jews (therefore) had lost their entire future purpose.
That terribly wrong thought, would weaken who Jesus is, and his unchangeable perfect ways – which can never be changed. My writings reveal, that God’s eternal plans and operation, will never change.
In 2 0 1 7, most of European Christians then believed, that God’s purposes for the Jews – has now come to an end.
It seems that support for Israel, has diminished, throughout the World. Most support now, is only coming from American believers. In fact, even hatred for Israel has infiltrated, most European Churches.
This blog, shows why they are so wrong.
The wrong and false claim, is that Israel has been completely replaced by the Church, and that all Old Testament promises for Israel, are now ONLY applicable to the Church. Non-Jews even question, whether the Jews of today, really are Jews. They claim, that they are of the synagogue of Satan.
This article, will address these issues, and go on to prove – these following things, about Israel and the Jews:
– that the Jews of today ARE indeed true Jews, and that the Old Testament promises for Israel, are for the Jews.
– that God has NOT finished with Israel (the Jewish nation), as His people
– that the Israel of today, is TRULY the fulfilment of prophecy.
This will now, also look at these following topics.
– The present reduced love for Israel, in the World today.
– Who is the Jew? Proof of why they are very truly Jewish.
Some claim, that all the Jewish women, were raped by gentile Roman men in AD 7 0. Therefore no-one knows, whether the children born, were Jewish or Gentile? They suggest that the records were lost, so no-one can be certain anymore, who the true natural Jews are.
This next following writing, will show that this thought about true Jews, is completely wrong.
If it is true, that true natural Jews do not exist, then why did God tell us otherwise. Why did God make so many prophecies, regarding the Jews (in the Bible) and during the end times, about them?
Zechariah refers to a natural Jew, in chapter 8 verse 2 3.
“This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘In those days
ten men from all languages and nations, will take firm hold of one Jew, by the hem of his robe, and say, “let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you” ‘
So, where did the Jews (that we know about) come from?
God told us, that He would still bring the Jewish people, back to the Land – after desolations of many generations. This was told through the prophets, in many places.
God is faithful, amazingly loving, and can never lie. So why are some people believing, that God lies??? That is absolute nonsense. God has already told us, that He will bring the Jews back to salvation, later.
Isaiah 6 1: 4
“And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities – the desolations of many generations.”
The first time, Israel were exiled for just ONE generation, when they were taken to Babylon, in the Old Testament.
However, this states MANY generations. Israel were exiled again around AD 7 0. They were exiled for nearly 2 0 0 0 years. They returned again 7 2 years ago, in year of 1 9 4 8, when the Land was in desolation for many generations. In 1 9 4 8 they recovered from that time of desolation, of many generations.
We have now seen the Land, become fruitful again. So year 1 9 4 8, was the fulfilment of MANY GENERATIONS.
Some say that the current nation of Israel, is a political mistake, and that the leadership in Israel, were all part of the Illuminati/freemason conspiracy.
Firstly, is God in control or not?
If Heaven is His throne, and the Earth is His footstool, then God will intervene. Remember, Jerusalem is the place of His rest. So, whether the masons were involved or not, GOD was involved!
Anyway, why would God say that He would bring the Jews back to the Land, if He knew that the Jews would cease to exist? God never lies about what HE KNOWS will happen.
The truth is, of what God clearly says. That THE JEWISH CHRISTIANS, would DEFINITLY exist in the LAST DAYS.
You need to ask these 2 questions:
- was every single Jewish woman in Israel, really raped, by the Romans in 7 0 AD?
- Was every single Jewish male killed, so that no more viable males existed?
Actually, many Israelites were living in other countries (Diaspora), and would come to visit Jerusalem, for the feasts.
In the Bible times, a natural Jew, was one born from a Jewish Father.
Then later, rules changed. As I understand the rules now, the leaders (rabbis?), decided that whoever was born of a Jewish mother – was now Jewish. So under that changed rule, Jews born of raped women, are STILL Jewish.
I understand there is a problem with this. It is God who sets the terms, not rabbis.
Let us consider, who Ruth was, and how she fits in with Jewish laws – of who is actually Jewish.
Ruth was a Gentile (not Jewish). But is was through her line, that Jesus was born and came to us. Her husband was Jewish, though.
Ruth chose to identify herself, with the people of Israel. This is what she said:
“your people (Israel) will be my people, and your God will be my God”.
Paul stated, that a true Jew was one inwardly, not outwardly.
Simple physical circumcision, did not make them Jewish, if their hearts were not yielded to God. That is, they may not be Jewish inside, if their hearts were hardened.
What makes them Jewish inside?
Paul talks about Abraham, and his faith in God. Therefore, faith is an important issue.
True Jews, are those (not Gentile Christians), who love the Lord their God – with all their:
They follow God’s commandments, with a pure heart.
I will just confirm by saying, that anyone who chooses to be a Jew, and identify themselves with the Jews – and love Israel, can say:
“your people are my people, and your God is my God”.
Ruth made this comment. I believe, She was later considered to be Jewish, because of this comment.
Is it true, that everyone who take this stance, are considered Jewish by God? If so, it would mean that all Gentile Christians could also be Jewish. Is that so? NO IT IS NOT! I will now explain the differences.
It is the non-Christian Gentiles, who join themselves to Israel, and show that love (for Israel) – by following the Torah and getting circumcised. These are those who can be considered as Jewish, but are not yet Christians, until they receive Jesus into their hearts.
But Christians cannot become Jewish, AFTER they come to faith in Jesus, because of the wonderful love of Jesus – has already saved them. A true Christian Gentile, cannot later become Jewish, because they are already a born again Christian.
I believe REAL identification with the Jews, and BECOMING Jewish, is much more than just having a simple love for Israel – and identifying with Israel. I believe it is a radical life change, by virtually being Jewish.
As Christians, we no longer need to become Jewish, to be part of God’s people.
Last details, that prove that Jews are real Jews.
For the non-Christian gentile, they WOULD have to become Jewish, if they want to become natural Jews – but not yet saved Christians. They cannot become saved Christians, by remaining unsaved. They also cannot become spiritually saved Jews afterwards, if they are not Christians.
I am not saying, that a gentile becoming Jewish saves them. NO IT DOES NOT!
A gentile may become Jewish but he/she still needs to accept Jesus as their Messiah, to become a child of God.
Who else would be foolish enough, to claim to be Jewish? The above things, would only occur, with the person who is truly Jewish!
Remember, most people do not want to become Jewish, as they hate Israel. The above needs a massive miracle, anyway. We must realise that being Jewish, is a reality, and never false or pretending.
So I firmly believe, that those who are Jews today, are the very same ones – that the prophets were prophesying about, who would be restored, to the Land of Israel.
“God is not man, that He should lie”.
If He said, He will restore the Jews back to the Land after MANY generations, from ALL corners of the World – not just from Babylon, then you can be sure, that He has done EXACTLY that.
Here’s some Jewish facts/statements, from a must-see short video of Israel. Please click below.
This is an amazing video, and there are many others like it. It proves how much Israel, has much more unique powers, than any other country in the world.
Why is this happening in Israel?
It happens in Israel, because God’s hand is powerfully upon the land, at this time – and He is doing a mighty work, with and in Israel, these days now.
The question is: Who is blessing Israel?
This is a nation that is hated of all nations, and being pressured by the nations, through the UN to divide the Land?
God’s Promise of The Land to Israel. Another video to open.
To whom, does the land of Israel belong to?
The answer is really very simple. God gave the land of Israel to Abraham, and to his descendants through Isaac. Please read these which prove this, as true.
Genesis 1 7: 8, Genesis 2 6: 2 – 5, and Jacob Genesis 2 8: 1 – 4, 1 3 – 1 4.
The land belongs to the descendants of Jacob, whose name was changed to Israel.
Romans 1: 1 6 says:
“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile”.
In the early days, we had an Abrahamic covenant, which was between God and Abraham. It included “free from law” proof. However, latter covenants were “based on law”.
Some immediately protest this claim, by arguing that the Abrahamic Covenant has been done away with, either by the Cross – or by the disobedience of the Jews. But the Bible clearly teaches, that the Abrahamic Covenant is everlasting, and still in effect. Please read:
Genesis 1 7: 7, 1 Chronicles 1 6: 1 7 – 1 8, Psalm 1 0 5: 8 – 1 1 and Romans 9: 4.
Paul states in Romans 1 1, that the disobedience of the Jews, has not nullified the promises of God – to them.
“for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable”
God’s promises are going to be fulfilled, to a believing remnant. In fact, Paul specifically states, that God’s promises to the Jews, are still valid. See these chapters:
Romans 1 1: 2 9. Romans 9: 2 7. See specially Romans 9: 4.
The fact is, that God wants to make a way, where the law no longer rules – but we are set free from this, by being given a way free from the punishment of law.
This includes difference, between tribulation, and great tribulation – and stories of 1 4 4,0 0 0, over last 7 years. Please now read this:
Jesus WILL return, and deliver us all from evil. This He will do, once, which covers all time – to enable us to live in His glorious kingdom, forever.
Matthew 2 4: 3 1 says:
“And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other”.
This is referring to the “elect” of the Jewish remnant, at the end of the Tribulation.
We then have this written, in Revelation 1 4: 1.
“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads”
The rapture of the church, is not referred to here, but the later Jews – who will be saved later (after Christians are first taken to Heaven), are now referred to. That chapter, is never saying that the church will suffer tribulation, but the tribulation will be incurred by Israel alone.
Jesus is saying, that THE ANGELS will gather, all the above – 1 4 4,0 0 0 sealed Jewish survivors, at the end of the seven years, to a place of protection. That is a place prepared for them, in the wilderness in Israel. These Angels enable them, to receive their messiah.
Revelation 7: 3 – 8 explains:
That, the 1 4 4,0 0 0 will not be raptured with Christians, but remain on Earth, because they have not yet believed on the Messiah.
Albeit, they ARE sealed for protection, as believers TO BE – and as the Jewish remnant. Their sudden new trust in Jesus, is probably triggered, by the observed rapture of Christians.
In Revelation 7, the countless multitude, were gathered together (raptured) – before the Tribulation started. This was before its full impact, was experienced, on Earth. This is clear, when we consider that the following chapters (after chapter 7), only then – start discussing the Tribulation and Great Tribulation, and the judgements of God.
The chapters before then, were just increasing in the tempo, and setting the scene for the rapture. There had been a gradual increase in intensity, with wars, famine, persecution etc.
This is like we are experiencing now, in 2 0 1 9 to 2 0 2 1. This now, as described, with an increasing intensity – but now is just the beginning of the birth pangs, as Jesus described.
Before that rapture, we read of the martyrs, being told to wait a little longer. These are not yet in the throne room. They are told this, presumably, until the rapture occurs.
See 1 Thessalonians 4: 1 6 – 1 7
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first”
“Then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so, shall we ever be with the Lord”.
No mention of the Lord coming to Earth yet, but only descending a part way, from Heaven to collect the Church from the Earth.
This is similar to the days we are living in, where there is a sudden increase, in believers being martyred for their faith. Paul said, that those who desire to live Godly lives in Christ Jesus, WILL suffer tribulation.
However, we who are alive, will be called upwards first – before God intervenes on Earth. This means, our full return to Earth will be later, not immediately during the tribulation.
There will soon be, an increase in tribulation, but that will not be – the GREAT tribulation, yet. That GREAT tribulation, only occurs 3.5 years, AFTER the rapture takes place.
There is a possibility, that those Jewish people who are left behind on Earth (after a pre tribulation rapture of Christians), will then put their trust in Jesus – and avoid death. This whilst going to Heaven. This will happen, while being gathered with the 1 4 4,0 0 0.
This later faith will happen, just before the full Return of Jesus to Earth. Before that return of Jesus, they will be gathered together, to a place of security – in a wilderness area in Israel, probably Petra.
Those who are martyred, during the Tribulation, will be resurrected after the full Second Coming – to participate in the thousand years.
Please read Rev 2 0: 4.
It reads “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.”
How can they be watching in Heaven, if Post-Tribulation was correct, and how would a Post Rapture make sense – in 1 Thessalonians 4: 1 4?
1 Thessalonians 4: 1 4 says:
“For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus, those who have fallen asleep in him”. Fallen asleep, means have died on the Earth, before being raised to life.
The dead believers are raised from their “sleep” (death), to be part of the rapture. Post-Trib view, would not make sense, if they are already alive – after going through the seven years themselves.
How can they be watching, if they are asleep?
They must have been part of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, then raised from the dead, to meet Jesus in the air. Presumably to be taken to a place of rest, to watch things pan out.
At this time, this multitude of Christians, who are now waiting in Heaven, observe the 1 4 4,0 0 0 sealed remnant Jews – on Earth. These are to become messianic Jews. These 1 4 4,0 0 0 remain on Earth (for a while), before the GREAT TRIBULATION occurs.
These 1 4 4,0 0 0, will not be taken immediately. These are the ones Jesus is referring to, in Matthew 2 4, as the elect – who will be later gathered together by the angels, from the four corners of the Earth, to one place.
At the Second Coming, of Jesus return to the Earth in full, those who have already been raptured – will return with Jesus, on white horses within the cloud. These will join in with the 1 4 4,0 0 0, plus more, to defeat the Anti-Christ. These will usher in the thousand years reign of Christ.
But first of all, there will be the wedding, of the bride of Christ – in Heaven, before this return occurs.
What is the Pre-tribulation Rapture?
The rapture is an event, that will take place sometime in the near future. Jesus will come in the air, catch up the Church from the earth, and then return to heaven – with the Church, for 7 years. This before, His final full appearance on Earth.
The Apostle Paul gave a clear description, of the rapture event, in his letters to the Thessalonians and Corinthians.
“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”
1 Thessalonians 4: 1 6 – 1 8.
“To meet the Lord in the air”.
This is further evidence, why Post-trib version is incorrect! If it was true, then why meet the Lord in the air, to be returned again to Earth immediately?
But Post-trib is not true!
The fact is, that the Church is taken first, followed by Israel/Jews afterwards – and then full Jesus return to Earth, with the taken believers, over 7 years. This will be, once all things are established by Him.
The details here are pre-trib. I hope to prove these things, even more so, of this reality – of the pre-tribulation rapture.
Anyway, continuing on:
“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on in-corruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality”
1 Cor. 1 5: 5 1 – 5 3.
The word “rapture” comes from Paul’s “caught up” remark in verse 17. The words “caught up” are translated from the Greek word harpazo, which means “to carry off”, “snatch up,” or “grasp hastily.” There was also a translation, from harpazo to “rapture” which now gives us that word.
1 2 6 0 or 1 2 9 0 days, and calculation of 2 sets of 3.5 years. Details now.
Revelation 1 2: 6 indicates:
That the Jews will have to wait on the Lord 1, 2 6 0 days, starting when the Antichrist stands in the Temple of God, and then declares himself to be God. This event will take place, at the mid-point of the seven-year tribulation.
Please now read these bible chapters:
2 Thes 2: 4
“Who opposes and exalts himself, above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, shewing himself, that he is God.”
This is the words of the Antichrist.
Dan 9: 2 7.
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many, for one week: and in the midst of the week, he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. And for the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation – and that determined, shall be poured upon the desolate”.
Because of the relative quiet starting period, for first 3.5 years, some people only see one 3.5 years of a terrible time of tribulation. In a way they are correct, because the first half of the tribulation, will be relatively peaceful.
But the second half of 3.5 years, will include the Great tribulation. Nonetheless, peaceful or not, there still remains a 7 year period, called the whole tribulation.
I can look into, and explain the difference, of 1 2 6 0 and 1 2 9 0 days later, if it is very important in your minds – to know the answer. As present I do not know the difference, but will check if needed.
At this time, the Jews flee into the wilderness, for safety (as described in the bible). It discusses this place as Petra. They know that all they have to do, is wait out those 1 2 6 0 days.
Mat 2 4: 1 6. “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains”.
That Word, is to the Jews (not the Church). We then read from Jeremiah 3 1: 3 1:
“The time is coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.”
That prophecy is NOT concerning the gentiles or the Church. It specifically states “the house of Israel and Judah combined“.
Ezekiel chapters 3 6 to 3 9, states that God will bring the Jews back to the Land, in unregenerate and unrepentant hearts first – and then convert them later.
Zechariah chapters 1 2 – 1 4 discusses the style of the conversions.
Please read Ezekiel 3 6 to 3 9.
It clearly states, that God will give them a heart of flesh, later on. What we see in Israel now, is the first stage, in God’s plan of Israel’s redemption. We see the physical resurrection of the Land, and the people back to its former glories, becoming fruitful again.
- Next will be Tribulation, after the church has been taken to Heaven
- Followed by the spiritual restoration of the Jews.
- Then great tribulation, while Jews are being taken to Heaven
- Jesus returns, when everyone is now ready, to FINALLY say “blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord”.
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