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Please now read this blog 113. I believe it is the best one, that I have ever written. It covers possibly the most information. Although the largest, it is very easy to read.
First completed on 2 9th Oct 2 0 1 9. But massively changed in Feb 2 0 2 1

This is now, a much fuller explanation, of why Bible’s teaching in Revelation – of Pre-Tribulation, is a sound doctrine.
God supernaturally healed me, from very near death, and gave me ability to write – handing me a purpose, for being alive longer.
If God saved me, and gave me this ability to write, then He must have a purpose for me. Please realise this point, much more now.
God wants me to continue to live, and He has this ability, to get me to write well.
Remember, I should be dead, according to the hospitals etc. The message I now give, is because God wants me to be alive, and share this TRUTH. He wants me to tell this message, to many people.
If my message was not true, then God has the power and ability to stop me from preaching it, and take me – finally and totally from the Earth.
The fact, that He has supernaturally restored me to life, and given me this ability to write much more now – should tell you, that JESUS has given me a much stronger message, from Him now.
Therefore my words and my message, should now be listened to, very seriously. I now give my latest message, below here.
I have recently received an email, which contains poor teaching, of Post-Tribulation.
I will now explain briefly, what Pre-Tribulation and Post-Tribulation mean. These words, are used in the Bible.
Pre-Tribulation simply means, that God will take Christians to Heaven first, before the 7 worst and terrible years start.
Post-Tribulation people believe, that Christians will suffer the 7 years first, before being taken to Heaven.
The whole Bible put together, clearly teaches on Pre-Tribulation, and definitely does not teach on Post-Tribulation. I will now spend much time, going through the Bible, revealing the whole truth – on what it teaches, re Pre-Tribulation etc.
I also need people to realise, that Pre-Tribulation is something, that God has clearly shown me – to be true.
Pre-Tribulation teaching, is purpose I am still alive. I have not died of my severe accident, because God wants me to teach this truth, to as many people as possible – and reveal all of it, before my life ends.
This message is now being spoken to people, before the seven years start. The message will be no good to anybody, apart from Jews, once the seven years start.
This is all I have left in my life, but I am thankful that God will help me, to get this message across to you all, while I still can.
Following on from here, is a message I badly received from Post-Trib people, which I now need to reply to. It starts with “I guess”.
The message that now starts, is a very poor message from Post-Trib people.
Very poor teaching of what others teach about Rapture and End Times Stance.
This is what they badly/wrongly teach.
“I guess, what I am trying to point out, is that there will be Christians present on earth, when the Anti-Christ is revealed – and throughout the Great Tribulation. And Christians ARE the Church.
If Jews put there faith and lives in Jesus, they are also now called Christians. They are baptised by one Holy Spirit, into the Body of Christ, which is known as the Church.
1 Corinthians 1 2: 1 2 – 1 4.
Jews who become Christians, are known as the Church, the body of Christ.
In many places in the Bible, it tells us, that the Beast will fight and kill many Christians – who believe in Jesus Christ.
There are passages, if you read them, that will show that there are some latter Christians – present on earth, during the Great Tribulation. This will also be during the reign of the beast.
Revelation 2 0: 4 is clear that those who reign with Christ, for length of 1 0 0 0 years (much later), are those Christians who will later, be beheaded.
This because, they refused to worship the beast, or receive the mark of the beast. How do you explain these passages of scripture?“
That last word “Scripture?” was the end of that very poor message.
My reply now follows. It covers many points of the discussion. But first of all, I leave a picture to get us in the best shape.
My Rapture and End Times Stance. Much better teaching
The last part before here, was the thoughts of Post-Trib, but this now answers their questions.
First some applicable pictures, of the Pre-Tribulation


twinkling of an eye: Revelation 7: 9
20 replies on “113 Second Coming of Jesus will be soon. This after Bible Revelation Teaching, of Pre-Tribulation. Believing Christians, will be taken to Heaven first”
Message from Mike G
I just want to know how you explain Revelation 20:4. That is all I’m interested in right now, we can have a fuller discussion about the rapture at another time.
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Revelation 20.4 says
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This is referring to the Jewish people who will be later saved after we are taken to Heaven. Maybe they include the 144,000 Jewish saved people who will reign on Earth for a while. The 144,000 will be given greater ruling power.
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Below here, is John Chingford’s reply to an earlier message (entered) from Mike G within page number 112. That reply was posted there. But to save confusion by posting it too many times, I just post my reply here to.
My reply:
I am not happy with what you have said and will reply here.
The Bible is much clearer than you assert and clearly reveals that pre-tribulation is the best and most obvious way to understand the bible and that all things become much clearer to realise this. These things have been clearly revealed to me since my near death accident that God remarkably healed and saved me from.
This is because my answer will be so full and complete and reveal so many important things that we all need to be aware of. Please read my reply on this new blog 113 when posted.
I also need to make a point very clearly about my experiences and what we need to learn.
If God saved me and gave me this ability to write, then He must have a purpose for me to continue to live and still have this ability. This should tell people that the message I now give is because God has given this to me. If it was not true, then God has the power and ability to stop me from preaching this. The fact He still allows me to write this should tell you that I need to be taken more seriously.
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I received a message from Mike G, that I could not post immediately, because it was not complete and could confuse many people.
I have now placed his message here, together with my replies.
My reply to this email, which was sent to me, is below as “My Reply”
Your statement
1) The premise, which I hope we can agree on is that the context and events of Revelation 20 are happening AFTER the Great Tribulation (Revelation 20:1-3). Are we agreed on this?
My reply
It happens after the church has been taken but before the 7 years and the 1000 years start. It happens before the great tribulation but after the lesser tribulation.
Your statement
2) Revelation 20:4 tells us three things about the people it refers to: (a) They were beheaded, because they refused to worship the beast or receive his mark, (b) they held the testimony of Jesus and the Word of God (c) They came to life again at the FIRST RESURRECTION. Are we agreed on these points?
My reply
As mentioned before and I keep saying, Revelation 20 will never refer to the church which was taken before the beginning of those 7 years. After that the whole of Revelation refers to the 7 years and Israel, Jewish believers or to non-believers. It also refers to Satan once the church is taken and the work he can do against Israel for a brief time, before they become believers. I have never changed from that point, because the whole of Revelation is clear on this matter. We should never just consider wrongly what you believe it says in chapter 20.
Your statement
Also, it is my understanding that anyone who believes in the testimony of Jesus Christ and the Word of God is a Christian. However, nowhere in the Revelation 20:1-6 passage does it say that the people are Jews or Gentiles, African or Arabs, European of Chinese? It Simply Doesn’t Say! The passage only explains to us what they believed, and why they were killed.
My reply
I mentioned above that you must refer to the whole of Revelation and not just chapter 20. It clearly reveals there is a different experience of Jews and Gentiles throughout the book and especially in chapters 6 and 7.
Your statement
This passage of scripture DOES NOT say that these people are JEWS. It DOES NOT SAY that they are part of the 144,000. If you insert these assumptions into the texts, then you are deliberately twisting and misinterpreting the plain reading of scripture based on a bias and a false assumption.
My reply
As said, please look at the context of the whole book of Revelation. In the context these are the Jewish people who were mentioned in chapters 6 and 7 and mentions here the 144,000.
Your statement
You also say “then you are deliberately twisting and misinterpreting the plain reading of scripture”
My replies
why accuse me like this. If you properly understood what I have been through, you should realise that this is a terrible thing to accuse me of and is extremely difficult for me to endure. The only way I can cope with it, is to know God has given me a clear truth and that you must be wrong.
Please realise that I do believe that God has made me stronger through what has happened to me. Have you been through the same torment and healing that I have been through? Why should you believe that you know more than me if you have not suffered like me?
By the way, you need to repent of such wording you have used against me, and before God, to receive His forgiveness. I know he loves you. He will forgive you, but please be more careful what you write and say, in future.
Your statement
The passages of Scripture that describe the 144,000 can be found in Revelation 7 & Revelation 14. Those descriptions are rich and complete in themselves. When you read through those chapters you will also see that there is no scripture that links them to Revelation 20, or any scripture that says they are the same group of people being spoken of.
You have to have make a huge assumption in order to link Revelation 20 to the 144,000 Jews of Revelation 7 & 14, because there is no scripture that says that the 144,000 of Revelation 7, & Revelation 14 are the same people being spoken of in Revelation 20.
My Reply
Now this is getting very silly by not measuring scripture correctly together, and thinking too much outside the box. If we read properly and fairly in context, the truth is much clearer without confusion, and without adding or taking things away. If you read the whole book of Revelation more carefully, you will notice it does explain all these things, far better than you are stating.
Your statement
Nowhere in the whole of the Bible does it say that the 144,000 were beheaded. This is proved by reading Revelation 7 and Revelation 14, which talk extensively about the 144,000. Yes, they are only Jews, but if you notice in Revelation 7 – they get sealed before the Great multitude from every tribe comes “out of the Great Tribulation” (Rev. 7:1-9).
My reply
Did I mention that they were beheaded? I was referring maybe to the third of Jewish peole, unbelievers etc and not the 144,000? If I did, then it was put in accidentally.
Your statement
Therefore Revelation 20:4 CANNOT be talking about the 144,000. Because Revelation 20:4 explains clearly that it is talking about people who are beheaded for refusing the mark of the beast. But, Revelation 14 tells us that the 144,000 are already in heaven when the mark of the beast happens on earth. So, they cannot be the same people – they cannot be in heaven with Jesus on Mount Zion (Rev 14), and at the same time be on earth (Rev 20).
My reply
I may not have explained it well enough but Revelation does not just talk about 144,000 Jewish people being saved later, but discusses whole one third of Jews – much more than 144,000. These one third will experience different things and be saved differently and at a different time. There salvation will be after the first 144,000 and they will still be here when the 144,000 have departed. So, I believe that 20.4 is not talking about the 144,000 but is discussing the third. The Christians are no longer on Earth.
Your statement
You have another problem to answer though – which is Revelation 14:9-13. This is another passage that very clearly tells us that there will be Christians on earth who will refuse to receive the mark of the beast ((not the 144,000 Jews who are already in heaven according to Rev 14:1-4)), this is what Revelation 14:12-15 says:
My reply
Where does it use the word “Christians” in Revelation 14:9-3? It uses the word “saints”. As I explained before, the word saints is only ever used to describe Jewish saved people, and never used to describe Christians.
My final comment
By the way, the rest of your questions do not observe what I have said here and are therefore now irrelevant. There is no point putting them here as I have already replied in full to all your questions.
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Just to make it a bit more clearer re the writing by Revelation of the word Saints.
Different writers of the bible explain things differently. There may be some writers in some parts of the bible who use the word saints to include Christians.
My point is that the writer of Revelation always refers to Jewish believers when that word saints is used. That writer in Revelation always uses Saints to mean Jewish saints and other words to mean Christians or the church.
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Mike finds my words very difficult to understand and follow.
He also does not seem to accept a lot of the things written by John in Revelation. I know he does not do this deliberately, but to me the words are very clear, which cannot be ignored re the second coming of Jesus for the church. I now reply to his writings in the next message from John.
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Thanks for following my site; you are very kind.
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Hi Equipping Site. I opened your blog because I got a message that you read mine. Did you previously read it or what happened?
I hope you appreciate my writings and are blessed by the way God has miraculously given me new life and great ability to write. I have also re discovered a lot of things I did not know so well before my accident.
All the best
John
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Your blog was a suggestion of Word Press; God works in such ways. I am very glad that you are doing well. Please keep up your good work; there are too many people who have no desire as to the content that is shown in the articles that you write.
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I am amazed how God works in your life. God will bless you on effort and time you put into this blog to be able to share the revelation and wisdom you have received from God. Continue to share what God wants you to write, regardless of the response you are receiving. God bless you
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I am getting new insights and information as i am reading your blog. I pray that God will open the hearts and mind of those who will read your blog; that they may see the message beyond what they can read and not see nor judge how you write it. God bless and be with you always.
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Thanks for all your wonderful replies. I have now changed a lot on this blog and with the changes continue on. I do hope you can continue to read all this, and keep sending me other messages.
Please read this message again and continue writing in reply.
“The Second Coming of Jesus soon, by Pre-Tribulation. That means we are taken to Heaven first before suffering. I now show why Pre-Tribulation is absolutely true, from the bible”
Thanks.
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Thank you for this very informative and clear message. Please don’t allow yourself to be undermined by those who get a satisfaction from useless arguments to give clear biblical references.
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Thanks, I think you are encouraging me to continue giving my messages from God. Of course I will.
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As I am reading and the truthis being exllsined, I have to keep replying so as not to be confused; I always have wondered about the 144.000 who weredestined for Heaven. That no made no sense to me and caused a lot of concern. A Jehovah’s Witness friend of mine was adamant that they were the witnesses but it still confused me. Thank you for your explanation. I also wonderd why some Christians came back to the earth and now you have explained that as well but I do not u understand why they were chosen and who are they? Why are they special
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Hi Calypso
I thought that I had carefully explained, that the 144,000 are the later Jewish people to be first saved, after the Church (us) are first taken to Heaven.
The first 144,000 of Jews will be saved. These are the greatest first authorities of God, on the Earth, after Christians are taken to Heaven.
There will then be millions of other Jews saved after the 144,000. These will be a third of all Jews. These Jews will be saved, after the Church has first been taken to Heaven.
Once all of us Christians, have been taken to Heaven first, we will then be prepared in Heaven for a later return to Earth. While in Heaven we will be transformed immensely to become perfect in every way, and then all of us will be ready later to return to Earth in greatest of glories and perfect in every way.
We are all chosen, because we love God. We worship Him as our most important person, and desire Him to take full control of us. We are not Israel, but are the Church.
Are you asking why the Church was chosen and why they are special?
If so, I must say that all this was the choice of God, as revealed in the Bible. God has spoken to us all, of his great purposes for us all in the future, and that this is God’s decision and choice – that cannot be changed by our wonderings. We are all saved by His power alone, and by nothing we ever can achieve ourselves.
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Yes of course I am encouraging you not to be put off by those who use useless argument but to continue your great work for the Lord our God, that has given you a great ministry
I was entralled by this, your greatest work and have spent the whole afternoon in rapturous pleasure. I have had a lot of answers to things that have worried me. Still not taken in all fully as it is a very long reading but by going over it again, I will . Thank you also that you have given bible references as these are essential proof for the reader. Well done John and thank through for your deduction and live that prompts your ministry.
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Thank you for latest message. Yes, you did explain very well a bout the 144.000, I understand now I was only not sure that they were the ones that returned with our Lord. I was not asking anything about the Church as I know the answer. That is really the basic knowledge of every true Christian, is it not
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Thank you for this powerful message with so much information.
I have learned so much from your blog and I really am blessed to know you,
Ur write ups are teachings the whole world needs to hear
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Thank you both, for your replies.
John
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