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113 Second Coming of Jesus will be soon. This after Bible Revelation Teaching, of Pre-Tribulation. Believing Christians, will be taken to Heaven first

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Please now read this blog 113. I believe it is the best one, that I have ever written. It covers possibly the most information. Although the largest, it is very easy to read.

First completed on 2 9th Oct 2 0 1 9. But massively changed in Feb 2 0 2 1

I now write an explanation, of why Pre-Tribulation is a sound doctrine. This includes, why we should always be prepared to go to Heaven, when we die. Not going to Heaven, would be a much more serious terrifying problem, than most people realise.

This is now, a much fuller explanation, of why Bible’s teaching in Revelation – of Pre-Tribulation, is a sound doctrine.

God supernaturally healed me, from very near death, and gave me ability to write – handing me a purpose, for being alive longer.

If God saved me, and gave me this ability to write, then He must have a purpose for me. Please realise this point, much more now.

God wants me to continue to live, and He has this ability, to get me to write well.

Remember, I should be dead, according to the hospitals etc. The message I now give, is because God wants me to be alive, and share this TRUTH. He wants me to tell this message, to many people.

If my message was not true, then God has the power and ability to stop me from preaching it, and take me – finally and totally from the Earth.

The fact, that He has supernaturally restored me to life, and given me this ability to write much more now – should tell you, that JESUS has given me a much stronger message, from Him now.

Therefore my words and my message, should now be listened to, very seriously. I now give my latest message, below here.

I have recently received an email, which contains poor teaching, of Post-Tribulation.

I will now explain briefly, what Pre-Tribulation and Post-Tribulation mean. These words, are used in the Bible.

Pre-Tribulation simply means, that God will take Christians to Heaven first, before the 7 worst and terrible years start.

Post-Tribulation people believe, that Christians will suffer the 7 years first, before being taken to Heaven.

The whole Bible put together, clearly teaches on Pre-Tribulation, and definitely does not teach on Post-Tribulation. I will now spend much time, going through the Bible, revealing the whole truth – on what it teaches, re Pre-Tribulation etc.

I also need people to realise, that Pre-Tribulation is something, that God has clearly shown me – to be true.

Pre-Tribulation teaching, is purpose I am still alive. I have not died of my severe accident, because God wants me to teach this truth, to as many people as possible – and reveal all of it, before my life ends.

This message is now being spoken to people, before the seven years start. The message will be no good to anybody, apart from Jews, once the seven years start.

This is all I have left in my life, but I am thankful that God will help me, to get this message across to you all, while I still can.

Following on from here, is a message I badly received from Post-Trib people, which I now need to reply to. It starts with “I guess”.

The message that now starts, is a very poor message from Post-Trib people.

Very poor teaching of what others teach about Rapture and End Times Stance.

This is what they badly/wrongly teach.

I guess, what I am trying to point out, is that there will be Christians present on earth, when the Anti-Christ is revealed – and throughout the Great Tribulation. And Christians ARE the Church.

If Jews put there faith and lives in Jesus, they are also now called Christians. They are baptised by one Holy Spirit, into the Body of Christ, which is known as the Church.

1 Corinthians 1 2: 1 2 – 1 4.

Jews who become Christians, are known as the Church, the body of Christ.

In many places in the Bible, it tells us, that the Beast will fight and kill many Christians – who believe in Jesus Christ.

There are passages, if you read them, that will show that there are some latter Christians – present on earth, during the Great Tribulation. This will also be during the reign of the beast.

Revelation 2 0: 4 is clear that those who reign with Christ, for length of 1 0 0 0 years (much later), are those Christians who will later, be beheaded.

This because, they refused to worship the beast, or receive the mark of the beast. How do you explain these passages of scripture?

That last word “Scripture?” was the end of that very poor message.

My reply now follows. It covers many points of the discussion. But first of all, I leave a picture to get us in the best shape.

My Rapture and End Times Stance. Much better teaching

The last part before here, was the thoughts of Post-Trib, but this now answers their questions.

First some applicable pictures, of the Pre-Tribulation

First the sky recedes as a scroll, to open the glory of heaven:  Revelation 6: 1 2 – 1 6
Then making way for the rapture of believers, in a 
twinkling of an eye:   Revelation 7: 9

My factual information on Pre-Tribulation

I will now give you my stance on: the Rapture, End Times, and Why I follow Pre-Tribulation.

I follow and completely consider Pre-Tribulation, for many clearly understood reasons. In doing so, I will need to remind ourselves, of the awfulness of Post-Tribulation teaching. I will mostly highlight the massive importance, of Pre-Trib, as revealed in the Bible.

The Post Tribulation Rapture believers (known as Post-Trib), point to Matthew 2 4: 3 1, to say that there is one rapture – and it comes AFTER the Final Tribulation. They also quote other places in the Bible, but they take all of these verses, completely out of context. It is out of context, of everything that is said, at those places.

Post-Tribbers also only point, to a very few number of scripture verses. These verses are usually well out of context, with each other, and never complete scriptures. We need to realise, that much more of the bible, DOES teach firmly – on PRE-TRIBULATION.

Pre-Tribulation is the correct case, in most bible passages.

If we do not take things properly in context, it would be too easy to make the bible say, whatever people want it to say. This is what some people do, and especially those who follow Post-Trib views.

People must never get things, in wrong context. What is the point of that? We must always follow the correct truth.

Pre-Tribulation rapture supporters, prove that the Bible vastly teaches Pre-Tribulation. I could quote vast parts of the bible, which prove in Pre-Tribulation, but will just mention two now – to make the point.

A short proof of this, is the scriptures like, Revelation 7 and Thessalonians:

Revelation and Thessalonians imply a rapture, BEFORE the Tribulation, so there cannot be a rapture AFTER the Tribulation!

This blog has vast number of pages, that prove that Pre-Tribulation is absolutely correct. Please look at these pages, which also prove how true it is. Maybe, I will list them all here later, as I have time.

Interpretations on Pre and Post Tribulation, are based on what people believe, but we must be sure that God’s truth is carefully taken care of – and never basing your thoughts, on just false belief.

We should open our minds, and hearts to the truth, of the Bible – and not ignore any scriptures from God. We need to be fair and seriously clear, in opening our minds, comparing scripture with scripture.

The fact is, there is only truth, on the subject of Pre-Tribulation. The real truth is easier to understand, in placing the Bible together properly, and carefully – in Bible consistency.

We need to understand, that God does not make it difficult to understand things. If we read and deal with the Scriptures properly, in the right order, we will see the clearness of the Scriptures. Therefore, we will always be able to help the sincere believer, to understand the real truth.

God wants us to know the real truth, and not be deceived.

God will not invent different truths, that confuse us. He will actually show us, the one absolute truth. He will also help us to understand everything good properly, and at the right time.

This will happen, if our hearts are properly focused on Him, as the most important person in our life. If He is not number one, then it would be much easier to get confused by bad teaching.

He wants us to love Him, with our whole hearts properly, and He will make that truth clear to His people.

God/Jesus, wants us to Follow the Truth of Pre-Tribulation, much more – and Properly without weakening.

It could be, that a hardness of heart, means a person does not really love and believe in God. They are pretending too much, and happy to mislead people, because truly they do not really care.

I say this, because there are far too many people in the world, who are trying to mislead God’s people – with dreadful lies. Therefore I ask these questions.

Do you give space in your heart, to love God as best as you can, and love Him as you should?

Do you open your minds (heads) more completely, without lying, to the truth of God’s Word?

Do you also, desire other people to be full of the absolute truth?

OR are your greatest desires of life for:

– Worldly things

– Earthly gains

– Body pleasures

– Receipts, instead?

What in full truth, are your greatest desires, honestly?

We all need to open our hearts fully, towards the one and most important true God. It needs to be done: Sincerely, truthfully, and completely. This must always be done, in the future, towards the True God.

If we do these things just written, now, then the truth of Pre-Tribulation – will become much clearer to us all, that it is true.

We will know more certainly, that it is true. Please also be aware, that all scripture is inspired by God. It is fully trustworthy.

I will now leave those thoughts with you, and go on to reveal the Purpose Of My Writing. I will do this now.

I will also first remind, in a greater way, that the Post-Trib believer falsely usesMatthew 2 4 verses 2 7 to 3 1 and Revelation 7: 1 4 to “say” that the rapture occurs AFTER the Tribulation of the Church.

I will now explain, why I am Pre-Trib. The Truth!

The thought of the Post-Trib person, is that they use Matthew 2 4: 3 1, but this is not referring to the rapture of the Church. The writer is no longer referring about the Church, but about the “elect” of the Jewish remnant. This is the actual real truth.

This is mentioned at the end of the Tribulation, Revelation 1 4: 1.

Jesus is declaring, that it is THE ANGELS (sealed believers), who will gather the 1 4 4,0 0 0 saved Jewish people together – during the mid point (or so), of the soon coming last seven years. These 1 4 4,0 0 0, will be brought to a place of protection, sealed by the Angels. This place is already prepared for them, to receive their messiah at that time.

Revelation 7: 3 – 8 explains:

The 1 4 4,0 0 0, will not initially be raptured, but remain on Earth (after the Church has been taken to Heaven). They will remain on Earth, because they have a job to do, in winning the third of Jews to salvation.

This cannot happen while the Church is on the Earth. So Church needs to be taken first. These 1 4 4,0 0 0 Jewish people, are a number sealed for protection, as are the Angels.

There are also a greater multitude of other Jewish people, who will believe in Jesus later, and then be saved. These are the 3rd of all Israel.

These Jewish people, will soon become believers, and become the remnant. Their trust in Jesus, is probably started, by their rapture – about halfway through the seven years.

Truth about Jewish people being saved, in the last days.

In Revelation 7, the countless multitude were gathered together (raptured), out of the Great Tribulation – probably before its worsened impact started.

This is clear, when we consider that the chapters (after 7), start discussing the Great Tribulation – with the Jewish believers, and the judgements of God. This is discussed then, and only then. From this point, the Church is never mentioned again, but only the Jewish people – are now mentioned.

Please read Revelation 7 verse 4 to 8. Especially look at verses 4 and 5:

“4. Then I heard the number of all those, who were sealed, That is: 1 4 4,0 0 0 from all the tribes of ISRAEL. From the tribes of Judah, Reuben, Gad” etc. Then see verses 6 to 8, for the other 9 tribes equals 1 2.

The actual full names, of the Jewish tribes are mentioned. These are mentioned in chapter 7, but this is listed, after the Church was taken to Heaven – in chapter 6. This clearly means there are 2 events.

That is: the salvation of the Church, followed by the salvation of the Jews.

The chapters before then, were just increasing the tempo, and setting the scene for the rapture. There had been a gradual increase in intensity, with wars, famine – persecution etc.

That is, just like we are now experiencing on Earth, with an increasing intensity – but these are just the beginning of the birth pangs (sorrow) as Jesus described.

Revelation chapter 6, verses 9 to 1 1.

In this part of Revelation, we read of the 5th seal, as the Church being taken to Heaven. There is then talk, a little later, in verses 1 2 to 1 7 – of the later Jews being saved, at the latter point of the revelation.

This is described as happening, after the Church has already been taken to Heaven.

Before the rapture, we read in another bible place, of the Martyrs. These are not yet in the throne room. They are told to wait a little longer, (presumably) until the rapture occurs. See 1 Thessalonians 4: 1 5 – 1 7.

This time of the rapture, is similar to the days we are now living in, where there is a sudden increase – in believers being martyred for their faith. Paul said, that those who desire to live Godly lives in Christ Jesus, WILL suffer tribulation/persecution.

So, there is now an increase in tribulation, but it is not the GREAT tribulation – yet. That only occurs, AFTER the rapture takes place first, and the Jewish people – are saved in the second part.

There is a possibility, that those left behind after a Pre-Trib rapture of Christians, who then afterwards put their trust in Jesus to avoid death – will also be gathered with the 1 4 4,0 0 0, just before the Return of Jesus to Earth.

These late believing Jewish people, will be gathered together, to a place of security – in a wilderness area in Israel. These may be taken, to a place now called Petra.

Those who are martyred/killed, during the 7 years, will be resurrected – to return to Earth, at the end of the seven years. They will spend time in God’s presence in Heaven first. They will then participate, in the thousand years reign of Christ. See Rev 2 0: 4.

Other events mentioned in the Bible, including details on the 1 4 4,0 0 0.

This chapter, includes difference between Church and Jewish believers. It also explains that the word Saints, means Jewish believers in the last seven years (or true Jewish believers in the Old Testament), and not the Church.

There are also scriptures in Joel 2 and in Acts, to look at, which discuss a probable solar eclipse. It also discusses subsequent blood moons, BEFORE the Great Tribulation. There have also been ones experienced, recently in 2 0 1 4 and 2 0 1 5, but that is not yet the Great Tribulation.

In the gospels, and in Revelation, it mentions the sun turning black – and the moon turning to blood. This with the addition of falling stars, AFTER the Tribulation. This MUST be another event, and indicate a supernatural DIVINE act by God.

This must be a divine act of God. That is because, a natural experience, is not expected – after 2 0 1 5.

Revelation says, there is a multitude who come OUT of the Great Tribulation. That means they do not face it, but are saved from it happening to them?  The Book of Revelation, talks about a lot of things, that the believers are watching in Heaven – while the Tribulation, and Judgements take place.

How could they be watching in Heaven, if Post-Tribulation was correct? Also, how would the teaching of Post-Rapture, make sense – in 1 Thessalonians 4: 1 4?

The Bible informs us, that the dead believers are raised from their “sleep”, to be part of the 7 years, after already watching in Heaven.

How can they be watching, if they are asleep? To make sense, they must have been part of a Pre-Trib Rapture, i.e. raised from the dead – and then meet Jesus high in the air, above Earth for 7 years. This before, being taken to Earth.

Also, the Bible makes it clear, by the wording – that the word SAINTS, refer to Jewish people saved later. It does not refer to Church believers now, who are known, not as Saints – but as Christian Church.

This multitude in Heaven, observe the 1 4 4,0 0 0 sealed remnant Jews on Earth, who will become messianic Jews – sealed of God. These remain on Earth, to meet Jesus when He returns.

These 1 4 4,0 0 0, are NOT the same, as the great multitude of other Jews. The great multitude description, is completely different. This larger number, are the ones Jesus is referring to, in Matthew 24 – as the elect, who will be gathered together by the angels, from the four corners of the Earth. They will be brought to one place.

At the Second Coming, but at the very end, those who have been raptured – will return with Jesus. These will return to the suffering earth, on white horses (within the cloud), and then join in with all the 1 4 4,0 0 0 plus – who are also returning. These will defeat the Antichrist, and usher in the thousand years reign of Christ.

But first there will in Heaven, the wedding of the Bride of Christ.

There is masses in Revelation, that talks about this wedding. The only place made available, for the wedding in Heaven, is during the mentioned 7 years.

Here is another saved message, which builds upon my position. Please open and watch it. It is a Bible article, with a very strong conclusive presentation, on why there will be a Pretribulation rapture. It is on this link:

More description of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture?

The rapture is an event, that will take place sometime in the near future. Jesus will come in the air, catch up to Heaven, the Church from the earth – and then return to heaven with the Church, for seven years.

He will prepare many things, including the Heavenly wedding of the Church, to Jesus. When the seven years are complete, then Jesus will return to the Earth, with the Church and Israel.

The Apostle Paul gave a very clear description, of the rapture truth/event, in his letters to the Thessalonians and Corinthians.

1 Thessalonians 4: 1 6 – 1 8.

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.”

1 Cor 1 5: 5 1 – 5 3

“Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality”.

The timing of the rapture is not known. But from the Word of God, and from sound reasoning, I hope to prove the reality – of the Pre-Tribulation rapture. By the way, sound reasoning, is something Jesus used quite frequently.

The word “rapture” comes from Paul’s “caught up” remark in verse 1 7. The words “caught up” are translated from the Greek word harpazo, which means “to carry off,” “snatch up,” or “grasp hastily.”

The translation, from harpazo to “rapture” involved two steps: first, harpazo became the Latin word raptus; second, raptus became the English word “rapture.”

Scriptural Evidence for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture. This includes the unknown hour of his Return, for the Church, but Israel believers will be saved later.

When we search the Scriptures, and read the passages describing the Lord Jesus’ return, we find verses that tell us, we will not know the day and hour of His return.

Matthew 2 5: 1 3 says that Jesus will return at an unknown time. Could this be related to the timing of just the Church, in the Pre-Tribulation period, or does it include the time of Jewish Believers salvation – in the Tribulation period?

It makes sense, what I have written, that the Church is now in a mystery time and the Earth is in a time of SORROWS. This is becoming even more true, and obvious in 2 0 2 1.

When the Church is taken to Heaven, then the really true and serious stuff, that the world will go through – will become much worse, and much more obvious/serious, for those who are left behind.

Another point I raise now.

There are some devilish things, starting in the heavens now. This includes pretence activities, by the Anti-Christ, to make us believe that there are UFO’s working in the heavens.

This is all false, but more people are now believing it is true.

The aim is to build up an Anti-God thinking, in the world. Once Christians are taken to Heaven, then this thinking will become more real as led by Satan. The evil people in the World, will think Christians are devilish, and be glad they have been removed.

This gladness will not last long, as things in the Earth will then, from three and a half years later – become the worst they have ever been.

I now talk about Revelation 1 2: 6.

Revelation 1 2: 6 indicates, that the Jews will have to wait on the Lord a determined 1, 2 6 0 days. This will start, when the Antichrist stands in the Temple of God, and declares himself to be God.

See 2 Thessalonians 2: 4.

“Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God”.

This event will take place in the last 3.5 years. This will be mid-point, of the seven-year tribulation Dan 9: 2 7.

Some people only see a terrible three-and-a-half-year tribulation. This is not fully true, but in a smaller way these people are correct, because the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation will be relatively peaceful, compared to the second 3.5 years.

Nonetheless, peaceful or not peaceful over first 3.5 years, there still remains a seven-year period – called the Tribulation and Great Tribulation. This will be a time, when the Jews flee into the wilderness. They know that all they have to do, is wait out those 1, 2 6 0 days.

See Matt 2 4: 1 6.

There is no way to apply the phrase “neither the day nor the hour” to this situation. The only way for these two viewpoints to be true, is to separate the two distinct events:

1. The rapture of the Church, which comes before the tribulation

2. The return of Jesus to the earth, which takes place, roughly seven years later.

The Marriage Supper of the Lamb

Luke 1 2: 3 6

The Word states, that when Christ returns, He will be returning from a wedding. In Revelation 1 9: 7 – 8, we read about the marriage itself. The marriage supper takes place before the marriage.

According to Jewish custom, the marriage contract often includes a dowry, and is drawn up first.

The act of faith, we then use, when we trust Jesus to be our Saviour. The dowry is His life, which was used to purchase us. When it’s time for the wedding, the groom goes to the Bride’s house, unannounced. She comes out to meet him, and then he takes her to his father’s house.

This precisely matches with the events, we are showing, that matches according to the Pre-Trib scenario.

Jesus, being the Groom, comes down from Heaven – and calls up the Church, His Bride. After meeting in the air, He and His Bride, return to His Father’s house – in Heaven.

The marriage supper itself, will take place in Heaven, while down here on earth – the final events of the Tribulation will be playing out. After the marriage supper, using Jewish tradition, the Bride and Groom are presented to the world – as Man and Wife.

See Rev 1 9: 1 4

This corresponds to the time, when Jesus later returns to earth, accompanied by an army. It says “And the armies which were in heaven, followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.”

Explaining and discussing the past, in recognition of the present truth, and explanation of what is happening now.

Many groups try to discredit the Pre-Trib rapture, by saying that most of the end-time events in the Bible, have already taken place.

A group of people called preterists, wrongly (with absolutely no evidence) claim that the Book of Revelation, was mostly fulfilled by 7 0 AD. They are using so much false evidence, and nonsense.

If the events described in the Book of Revelation, took place in the past and not now, I’m at a loss to explain many of the current situations I see around us today – in 2 0 2 1.

These recent fulfilments of Scripture, in our days now, includes:

– rebirth of Israel

– reunification of Europe until 2 0 2 0

– number of global wars that have occurred

– development of nuclear weapons

– 1 9 1 4 and 1 9 3 9 world wars.

– World becoming stronger, through a growing one world place

During history class, I must have slept through the part, where the teacher talked about the time:

– when a third of all the World trees, were burned up.

– When 1 0 0-pound hailstones fell from the sky.

– When the sea turned into blood.

Well, those things have never happened, so far. That teaching was complete nonsense, suggesting it had already happened.

Many people would have to question their belief, in Post-Trib, if Preterists were correct. Why? Because Post-Tribs would have to believe, that most of their prophecies have already occurred, and so mess up their views.

The fact actually is, that both Preterists and Post-Trib parties, are not following the scriptures correctly – or properly observing the worldly events today.

Some of my findings in the Bible and experiences, was not my own thoughts, but I found excellent material in the computer – to add from it, and have read and agreed to it. They have raised similar issues to mine, but these are so convincing, and strengthen my position.

The People of the Millennium, 1 0 0 0 years

If Christ were to come back, after the tribulation immediately, and rapture all the Jewish Saints – and slay all the ungodly. Then who would be left to populate the earth, during the millennium?

Only the Pre-Trib viewpoint, can account for all the Post-Trib problems. The Church is raptured, before the tribulation. A vast number of souls are saved, during this seven-year time frame. Those who are saved through the tribulation, will then go into the millennium (1 0 0 0 years).

In the Pre-trib scenario, after we rise to meet the Lord in the air, we will go to heaven – and abide there seven years. At the end of that seven years, Christ will come down to earth, defeat the Antichrist – and cleanse the temple.

In a Post-Trib rapture, we would rise in the air, to meet the Lord – then do a 180 degree U-turn, and come back down to earth immediately. That cannot make sense, because it is not true. I have already shown the reason we have 7 years in Heaven first, which includes a wedding.

Revelation 1: 7, states an event that happens 7 years later:

“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.”

Christ will appear with the clouds, and come down to earth, with a people who joined with Him in Heaven – over those 7 years.

Zechariah 1 4: 4 says, that His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives. If He’s already headed our way, why would we need to be caught up first to meet Him in the clouds? It only makes sense to realise, that Jesus and the Church are first in Heaven, for those 7 years.

After the shout to “come up hither,” the Church is no longer mentioned in Scripture at all, any more.

The attention of Scripture now, switches from the Church, to the Jews – living in Israel.

Many Pre-Trib writers, cite Revelation 4: 1, which says:

“come up hither,”

This is as a prophetic reference, to the rapture of the Church, leaving Revelation chapters 1 through 3, as a description of the Church Age.

Armies in Fine Linen

Rev 1 9: 1 8

When Jesus returns to Earth after the 7 years, an army follows Him. The army’s members are riding on white horses, and they are clothed in fine linen, that is white and clean. We are told that the fine linen, is the righteousness of the Saints.

If the Saints of God (Jewish believers), are returning with Christ, to wage war on the Antichrist – then it is not possible, to have a Post-Trib rapture. If so, we would be running into ourselves, as we are coming and going.

The Time of Jacob’s Trouble

In several passages, the Bible refers to the Tribulation, as a time of trouble for the Jews.

The phrase “Jacob’s trouble” relates to the descendants of Jacob.

Jeremiah 3 0: 7 says, that this time of trouble will come, just before the Lord returns to save His people.

Dan 9: 2 4.

The final week of Daniel’s 7 0th week, is yet to take place. An angel told Daniel that, “7 0 weeks are determined unto thy people”. Scripture never mentions, that the Tribulation is meant to be a time of testing, for Christians. It is a time of testing for the Jews. Christians will experience things different, from Jewish believers.

However, some Post-Trib people, try to claim – that they are the ones being tested, during the Tribulation. This is not true. Why place people, under needless terrible future time?

To believe this terrible time as so, they need to wrongly understand, who the 1 4 4,0 0 0 are. This per Revelation 7: 2 – 8 and those who receive God’s protective seal.

“He” That is Taken Out of the Way?

Before the Antichrist can be revealed, Paul said a certain “He” must be taken out of the way. According to 2 Thessalonians 2: 7, the “He” that must be removed, is widely thought to be the Holy Spirit.

It has been promised, that the Holy Spirit would never leave the Church, and without the working of the Holy Spirit – remaining on earth, no one could be saved during the Tribulation.

The removal of the Church, which is indwelt by the Holy Ghost, would seem the best explanation – for this dilemma.

The working of the Holy Spirit, could go on during the Tribulation, but His influence would be diminished, because of the missing Church.

War or Rapture?

Rev 1 9: 1 9 – 2 1

When Jesus returns at the end of the Tribulation, He will be coming to Earth for battle against Satan, and all of Satan’s followers.

For those who believe in a Post-Trib rapture, which starts at the end of the seven years, it would be strange to meet your Lord and Saviour – at the same time, as He’s rushing into battle.

The idea that war and rapture could occur together, is ridiculous, especially if they happen – at the same time.

The Five Foolish Virgins

The wedding story, that Jesus gave us, in Matthew 2 5: 2 – 1 3, is a parable of the rapture of the Church. It is a great revelation – of God’s great relationship with His people, and how He wants to become more united with the lovers of Jesus, in great love and perfect unity etc.

True believers in Jesus now, will never be left behind. They will go to Heaven at start of seven years, and will not be part of the left behind foolish virgins. These left behind, may be two thirds of the Jewish people, who do not believe the truth properly.

It also reveals, how some will not be ready. Jesus clearly states, that a group of people will miss out on this event, and will cry out to God – to let them into the place where He resides, heaven.

Although some try to put this parable in a Post-Trib context, it doesn’t fit very well. The ones left behind in a Post-Trib rapture, will not need to seek the Lord, because they’ll immediately be confronted by Him and His army of angels. This again, proves how there could never be an event like Post-Trib, that can never work.

God Hath Not Appointed Us to Wrath

1 Thessalonians 5: 9

Paul assures us, that God has not appointed His people to wrath. This wrath is plainly God’s anger, that will be poured out during the Tribulation during a very terrible time for left behind people. Pre-Trib believers, interpret this as meaning that Christians will first be removed from the earth.

Post-trib believers tell a different story. They describe this as meaning, that God will partly protect Christians during the Tribulation, and pour this wrath out on the unbelievers mostly. However, there will still be a time of great suffering for Christians.

Why should Post-Trib people, teach such things, that will cause believers to suffer worries? Believers should not be concerned. We need to remove this needless stress from them.

See Revelation 1 3: 7

This idea of Post-Trib is wrong and runs against the statement made, as follows:

“And it was given unto Antichrist, to make war with the Saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”

Remember Saints are not Christians, but latter Jewish believers. The Antichrist can never appear on Earth now, until Christians are first taken to Heaven. So what does that tell you about Revelation 1 3: 7

A Post-Trib view, would make God’s promise of ultimate protection for Christians, changed into a wrathful end for these people.

The only way, to validly interpret God’s promise of protection, from wrath – is by viewing: 1 Thessalonians 5: 9, as the removal of the Church, from this temporary world of suffering.

The Salt of the Earth

Matthew 5: 1 3

Jesus said, “Ye are the salt of the earth”. When the believers are suddenly removed, the earth will be plunged into spiritual darkness. When this happens, the Antichrist will then be free to control the world.

God Takes an Inventory

Revelation 7: 3

An angel descends to earth, and seals the servants of God. Two bits of information about this sealing, highly disclaim a Post-Trib viewpoint.

The first item, is the number of people sealed. That is the number, 1 4 4,0 0 0.

The second one is that all those who are sealed, are from the 1 2 tribes of Israel.

For the events in Revelation 7: 3 – 8 to be true, in a Post-Trib interpretation, either the Church has turned against God, or God has turned against the Church.

A Post-Tribber could write a thousand-word wrong commentary, about why the Church doesn’t need to be sealed. This commentary would be given wrongly, instead of showing why the Church is not mentioned or sealed. A Pre-Trib supporter, could just simply say, “they are already in heaven.”

Noah and Lot as Examples

The Tribulation period, is compared to the times of Noah and Lot, by Jesus in Luke 1 7: 2 8. Most people argue, over whether the time frame Jesus was talking about, in that passage – was Pre-Trib or Post-Trib. In doing so, they miss an important point.

The two circumstances, that the Noah and Lot situations have in common, are the removal of the righteous – and the judgement of the unbelievers. From these two accounts, we see that God prefers to remove His own, when danger is involved.

Common-Sense Reasons, for Believing in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture

If the Antichrist came to power, with the Church still here, I do not see how he could operate. When Hitler was fighting to take over England, a number of Christians were praying for victory. Hitler made mistake after mistake, and England outperformed its enemy, at every stage of the conflict.

It is difficult to measure the impact, of intercessory prayer, in physical warfare. Little is known, of how great a role praying Christians played, in the defeat of Nazi Germany. If the Church were to reside on earth, during the Tribulation, I am sure she would give the Antichrist terrible pain.

Revelation 1 1: 3

The two witnesses alone, give the Antichrist enough headaches. Millions of Christians who know their Bibles well, would recognize the man of sin, and pray failure down on his head.

The Post-Trib view, would have to plan on the Church just rolling over, and playing dead – the whole seven years. This is because the Church is allowing evil to take control, and ruin us all.

That can never actually happen on the Earth, at the moment, because believing Christians will always prevent this – through their prayers, preaching etc.

We should all remember one thing:

Knowing Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, and having your name written in the Lamb’s Book of Life, should be your number-one priority.

The jailer asked Paul, “What must I do to be saved?” The answer was, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved”

Acts 1 6: 3 0 – 3 1

John Chingford Closing Comments: 

I am now firmly convinced of the Pre-Trib rapture and a Pre-Millennial Second Coming, because of in depth study on the subject.

The most obvious points to me now, is because of the wedding/marriage traditions, set by God – which are an illustration of Christ and His bride. No-one can remove this from the Bible

John 1 4

This is a strong picture of the Jewish wedding tradition, of going to the Father to prepare a place for His bride, and then returning to take her to the Father. This is during the 7 years wedding supper etc. It all points to a Pre-Trib rapture.

By John Chingford

I am still a born again Christian, after my very serious, expected Death. I always have been one, since I was 18.5 years old. I had a serious car accident in 2017, which almost killed me.

I was in hospital asleep, for a full 4 months or so, and still find it very hard to remember - many things, which happened before my accident. However, the major thing is, that God has revealed Himself to me very specially. He has awoken me to remember my trust in Him.

It is amazing, that the only things I really remember, is that I used to run this blog - and I do remember much about it, and will continue it. Many things have left my memory, but I do remember my salvation and how to serve Jesus/God. I also remember Him, and His needs for me to serve Him, and win others to Him.

God has now enabled me again, to be able to write very strong messages.

I now write messages that I want you to read. They are clear messages from Him, that should be very easy to read, and lead you all more towards God. Please now read all my 350 blog messages, or so. These blog messages have been written in here, up to Feb 2021.

You will see that they are real and true messages from God, and therefore cannot and should not be ignored. These should open our eyes to what God wants us all to learn in these days.

I hope you can use my blog and read it properly. I desire that what God has spoken to me seriously, during and after this accident etc will be revealed to many people.

I especially want you to know the truth of His free eternal salvation. This cannot be ever lost by those who trust Him, as He Himself gives us all the power to trust in Him. It is His power He gives us, that we can never lose. This is because, this power is retained by Him - not us.

20 replies on “113 Second Coming of Jesus will be soon. This after Bible Revelation Teaching, of Pre-Tribulation. Believing Christians, will be taken to Heaven first”

Revelation 20.4 says
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

This is referring to the Jewish people who will be later saved after we are taken to Heaven. Maybe they include the 144,000 Jewish saved people who will reign on Earth for a while. The 144,000 will be given greater ruling power.

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Below here, is John Chingford’s reply to an earlier message (entered) from Mike G within page number 112. That reply was posted there. But to save confusion by posting it too many times, I just post my reply here to.

My reply:
I am not happy with what you have said and will reply here.

The Bible is much clearer than you assert and clearly reveals that pre-tribulation is the best and most obvious way to understand the bible and that all things become much clearer to realise this. These things have been clearly revealed to me since my near death accident that God remarkably healed and saved me from.

This is because my answer will be so full and complete and reveal so many important things that we all need to be aware of. Please read my reply on this new blog 113 when posted.

I also need to make a point very clearly about my experiences and what we need to learn.

If God saved me and gave me this ability to write, then He must have a purpose for me to continue to live and still have this ability. This should tell people that the message I now give is because God has given this to me. If it was not true, then God has the power and ability to stop me from preaching this. The fact He still allows me to write this should tell you that I need to be taken more seriously.

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I received a message from Mike G, that I could not post immediately, because it was not complete and could confuse many people.

I have now placed his message here, together with my replies.

My reply to this email, which was sent to me, is below as “My Reply”

Your statement
1) The premise, which I hope we can agree on is that the context and events of Revelation 20 are happening AFTER the Great Tribulation (Revelation 20:1-3). Are we agreed on this?

My reply
It happens after the church has been taken but before the 7 years and the 1000 years start. It happens before the great tribulation but after the lesser tribulation.

Your statement
2) Revelation 20:4 tells us three things about the people it refers to: (a) They were beheaded, because they refused to worship the beast or receive his mark, (b) they held the testimony of Jesus and the Word of God (c) They came to life again at the FIRST RESURRECTION. Are we agreed on these points?

My reply
As mentioned before and I keep saying, Revelation 20 will never refer to the church which was taken before the beginning of those 7 years. After that the whole of Revelation refers to the 7 years and Israel, Jewish believers or to non-believers. It also refers to Satan once the church is taken and the work he can do against Israel for a brief time, before they become believers. I have never changed from that point, because the whole of Revelation is clear on this matter. We should never just consider wrongly what you believe it says in chapter 20.

Your statement
Also, it is my understanding that anyone who believes in the testimony of Jesus Christ and the Word of God is a Christian. However, nowhere in the Revelation 20:1-6 passage does it say that the people are Jews or Gentiles, African or Arabs, European of Chinese? It Simply Doesn’t Say! The passage only explains to us what they believed, and why they were killed.

My reply
I mentioned above that you must refer to the whole of Revelation and not just chapter 20. It clearly reveals there is a different experience of Jews and Gentiles throughout the book and especially in chapters 6 and 7.

Your statement
This passage of scripture DOES NOT say that these people are JEWS. It DOES NOT SAY that they are part of the 144,000. If you insert these assumptions into the texts, then you are deliberately twisting and misinterpreting the plain reading of scripture based on a bias and a false assumption.

My reply
As said, please look at the context of the whole book of Revelation. In the context these are the Jewish people who were mentioned in chapters 6 and 7 and mentions here the 144,000.

Your statement
You also say “then you are deliberately twisting and misinterpreting the plain reading of scripture”

My replies
why accuse me like this. If you properly understood what I have been through, you should realise that this is a terrible thing to accuse me of and is extremely difficult for me to endure. The only way I can cope with it, is to know God has given me a clear truth and that you must be wrong.

Please realise that I do believe that God has made me stronger through what has happened to me. Have you been through the same torment and healing that I have been through? Why should you believe that you know more than me if you have not suffered like me?

By the way, you need to repent of such wording you have used against me, and before God, to receive His forgiveness. I know he loves you. He will forgive you, but please be more careful what you write and say, in future.

Your statement
The passages of Scripture that describe the 144,000 can be found in Revelation 7 & Revelation 14. Those descriptions are rich and complete in themselves. When you read through those chapters you will also see that there is no scripture that links them to Revelation 20, or any scripture that says they are the same group of people being spoken of.

You have to have make a huge assumption in order to link Revelation 20 to the 144,000 Jews of Revelation 7 & 14, because there is no scripture that says that the 144,000 of Revelation 7, & Revelation 14 are the same people being spoken of in Revelation 20.

My Reply
Now this is getting very silly by not measuring scripture correctly together, and thinking too much outside the box. If we read properly and fairly in context, the truth is much clearer without confusion, and without adding or taking things away. If you read the whole book of Revelation more carefully, you will notice it does explain all these things, far better than you are stating.

Your statement
Nowhere in the whole of the Bible does it say that the 144,000 were beheaded. This is proved by reading Revelation 7 and Revelation 14, which talk extensively about the 144,000. Yes, they are only Jews, but if you notice in Revelation 7 – they get sealed before the Great multitude from every tribe comes “out of the Great Tribulation” (Rev. 7:1-9).

My reply
Did I mention that they were beheaded? I was referring maybe to the third of Jewish peole, unbelievers etc and not the 144,000? If I did, then it was put in accidentally.

Your statement
Therefore Revelation 20:4 CANNOT be talking about the 144,000. Because Revelation 20:4 explains clearly that it is talking about people who are beheaded for refusing the mark of the beast. But, Revelation 14 tells us that the 144,000 are already in heaven when the mark of the beast happens on earth. So, they cannot be the same people – they cannot be in heaven with Jesus on Mount Zion (Rev 14), and at the same time be on earth (Rev 20).

My reply
I may not have explained it well enough but Revelation does not just talk about 144,000 Jewish people being saved later, but discusses whole one third of Jews – much more than 144,000. These one third will experience different things and be saved differently and at a different time. There salvation will be after the first 144,000 and they will still be here when the 144,000 have departed. So, I believe that 20.4 is not talking about the 144,000 but is discussing the third. The Christians are no longer on Earth.

Your statement
You have another problem to answer though – which is Revelation 14:9-13. This is another passage that very clearly tells us that there will be Christians on earth who will refuse to receive the mark of the beast ((not the 144,000 Jews who are already in heaven according to Rev 14:1-4)), this is what Revelation 14:12-15 says:

My reply
Where does it use the word “Christians” in Revelation 14:9-3? It uses the word “saints”. As I explained before, the word saints is only ever used to describe Jewish saved people, and never used to describe Christians.

My final comment
By the way, the rest of your questions do not observe what I have said here and are therefore now irrelevant. There is no point putting them here as I have already replied in full to all your questions.

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Just to make it a bit more clearer re the writing by Revelation of the word Saints.
Different writers of the bible explain things differently. There may be some writers in some parts of the bible who use the word saints to include Christians.

My point is that the writer of Revelation always refers to Jewish believers when that word saints is used. That writer in Revelation always uses Saints to mean Jewish saints and other words to mean Christians or the church.

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Mike finds my words very difficult to understand and follow.

He also does not seem to accept a lot of the things written by John in Revelation. I know he does not do this deliberately, but to me the words are very clear, which cannot be ignored re the second coming of Jesus for the church. I now reply to his writings in the next message from John.

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Hi Equipping Site. I opened your blog because I got a message that you read mine. Did you previously read it or what happened?

I hope you appreciate my writings and are blessed by the way God has miraculously given me new life and great ability to write. I have also re discovered a lot of things I did not know so well before my accident.

All the best

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Your blog was a suggestion of Word Press; God works in such ways. I am very glad that you are doing well. Please keep up your good work; there are too many people who have no desire as to the content that is shown in the articles that you write.

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I am amazed how God works in your life. God will bless you on effort and time you put into this blog to be able to share the revelation and wisdom you have received from God. Continue to share what God wants you to write, regardless of the response you are receiving. God bless you

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I am getting new insights and information as i am reading your blog. I pray that God will open the hearts and mind of those who will read your blog; that they may see the message beyond what they can read and not see nor judge how you write it. God bless and be with you always.

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Thanks for all your wonderful replies. I have now changed a lot on this blog and with the changes continue on. I do hope you can continue to read all this, and keep sending me other messages.

Please read this message again and continue writing in reply.

“The Second Coming of Jesus soon, by Pre-Tribulation. That means we are taken to Heaven first before suffering. I now show why Pre-Tribulation is absolutely true, from the bible”


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Thank you for this very informative and clear message. Please don’t allow yourself to be undermined by those who get a satisfaction from useless arguments to give clear biblical references.

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As I am reading and the truthis being exllsined, I have to keep replying so as not to be confused; I always have wondered about the 144.000 who weredestined for Heaven. That no made no sense to me and caused a lot of concern. A Jehovah’s Witness friend of mine was adamant that they were the witnesses but it still confused me. Thank you for your explanation. I also wonderd why some Christians came back to the earth and now you have explained that as well but I do not u understand why they were chosen and who are they? Why are they special

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Hi Calypso

I thought that I had carefully explained, that the 144,000 are the later Jewish people to be first saved, after the Church (us) are first taken to Heaven.

The first 144,000 of Jews will be saved. These are the greatest first authorities of God, on the Earth, after Christians are taken to Heaven.

There will then be millions of other Jews saved after the 144,000. These will be a third of all Jews. These Jews will be saved, after the Church has first been taken to Heaven.

Once all of us Christians, have been taken to Heaven first, we will then be prepared in Heaven for a later return to Earth. While in Heaven we will be transformed immensely to become perfect in every way, and then all of us will be ready later to return to Earth in greatest of glories and perfect in every way.

We are all chosen, because we love God. We worship Him as our most important person, and desire Him to take full control of us. We are not Israel, but are the Church.

Are you asking why the Church was chosen and why they are special?

If so, I must say that all this was the choice of God, as revealed in the Bible. God has spoken to us all, of his great purposes for us all in the future, and that this is God’s decision and choice – that cannot be changed by our wonderings. We are all saved by His power alone, and by nothing we ever can achieve ourselves.

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Yes of course I am encouraging you not to be put off by those who use useless argument but to continue your great work for the Lord our God, that has given you a great ministry
I was entralled by this, your greatest work and have spent the whole afternoon in rapturous pleasure. I have had a lot of answers to things that have worried me. Still not taken in all fully as it is a very long reading but by going over it again, I will . Thank you also that you have given bible references as these are essential proof for the reader. Well done John and thank through for your deduction and live that prompts your ministry.

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Thank you for latest message. Yes, you did explain very well a bout the 144.000, I understand now I was only not sure that they were the ones that returned with our Lord. I was not asking anything about the Church as I know the answer. That is really the basic knowledge of every true Christian, is it not

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Thank you for this powerful message with so much information.
I have learned so much from your blog and I really am blessed to know you,
Ur write ups are teachings the whole world needs to hear

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